Service or CMP Special Garand Receiver Quality (Read 16829 times)

Paul96734

Service or CMP Special Garand Receiver Quality
« on: October 25, 2014, 11:49:24 PM »
Looking to order my first Garand, but I am conflicted on getting a Service or Special Grade rifle. My main concern is potential pitting on the receiver in Hawaii's environment. Does anyone know if the CMP Special receivers are of a better quality, or are the improvements just in the new stock and barell? Long term plan is to make it into a .308 rifle, but I am open to using .30-06 in the beginning if the Service Grade rifles are the route to initially build upon.

Thank you in advance.

Tom_G

Re: Service or CMP Special Garand Receiver Quality
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2014, 06:39:15 AM »
The special grades aren't any more resistant to pitting than the other grades, just in better shape.  They have the same finish as the originals, albeit more recently applied.
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ren

Re: Service or CMP Special Garand Receiver Quality
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2014, 06:45:57 AM »
From what I understand the receiver is reparked and theycan be one for you in .308
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zippz

Re: Service or CMP Special Garand Receiver Quality
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2014, 06:47:12 AM »
Looking to order my first Garand, but I am conflicted on getting a Service or Special Grade rifle. My main concern is potential pitting on the receiver in Hawaii's environment. Does anyone know if the CMP Special receivers are of a better quality, or are the improvements just in the new stock and barell? Long term plan is to make it into a .308 rifle, but I am open to using .30-06 in the beginning if the Service Grade rifles are the route to initially build upon.

Thank you in advance.

The CMP sells a .308 Garand.  http://www.thecmp.org/Sales/m1garand.htm.  As long as you keep it maintained and oiled, I don't think there would be a difference as far as pitting.

Paul96734

Re: Service or CMP Special Garand Receiver Quality
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2014, 08:11:09 AM »
The CMP sells a .308 Garand.  http://www.thecmp.org/Sales/m1garand.htm.  As long as you keep it maintained and oiled, I don't think there would be a difference as far as pitting.

I did initially see the .308 available, I was just wondering if the extra 1/3 of the cost of a Service grade was just found in the new barrel and stock.

Teichi

Re: Service or CMP Special Garand Receiver Quality
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2014, 03:14:16 PM »
I have seen all the different grades at CMP North Store at Camp Perry.The Service grades are pretty good, but you are taking a chance that you will get a lemon.

The Special grades are completely rebuilt with new barrels and wood.

If you are looking to do serious shooting, then go for the Special.

If you want a nostalgic plinker, go for the Service

Coastierider

Re: Service or CMP Special Garand Receiver Quality
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2014, 05:21:18 PM »
My service grade HRA had a throat gauge and bore gauge of "2", and the wood looked good, just a few small nicks, nothing major.

Paul96734

Re: Service or CMP Special Garand Receiver Quality
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2014, 05:59:32 PM »
I have seen all the different grades at CMP North Store at Camp Perry.The Service grades are pretty good, but you are taking a chance that you will get a lemon.

The Special grades are completely rebuilt with new barrels and wood.

If you are looking to do serious shooting, then go for the Special.

If you want a nostalgic plinker, go for the Service

I am begining to lean towards the Special in .308 with an adjustable gas plug. I would prefer a totally rebuilt rifle with a standardized round that I can buy/reload across other firearm platforms.

Worse comes to worse, I can buy a Service grade .30-06 later on.

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Re: Service or CMP Special Garand Receiver Quality
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2014, 08:08:20 PM »
I just order my special in .30-06 along with two cans of the Greek ball ammo.

Paul96734

Re: Service or CMP Special Garand Receiver Quality
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2014, 09:02:14 PM »
I just order my special in .30-06 along with two cans of the Greek ball ammo.

Great, but how long will that supply last?

Lihikai

Re: Service or CMP Special Garand Receiver Quality
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2014, 10:24:53 PM »
Great, but how long will that supply last?

Supposedly CMP will start selling sealed spam cans of Greek HXP M2 once the loose stuff is sold out.  HXP brass is excellent for reloading.

Teichi

Re: Service or CMP Special Garand Receiver Quality
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2014, 05:08:11 AM »
I bought 2 spam cans earlier this year. They sold out quickly.

Paul96734

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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2014, 09:18:51 AM »
Supposedly CMP will start selling sealed spam cans of Greek HXP M2 once the loose stuff is sold out.  HXP brass is excellent for reloading.

Anyone offering classes on how to reload? lol

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Re: Service or CMP Special Garand Receiver Quality
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Paul96734

Re: Service or CMP Special Garand Receiver Quality
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2014, 10:24:57 AM »
Maybe X-Ring? https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=16543.0

I would love to learn how to reload for this rifle and my 54R.

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Re: Service or CMP Special Garand Receiver Quality
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2014, 02:16:52 PM »
My m1 CMP special is on it way. I'm getting it monday. I'm actually surprised how quickly my order was processed. They got my order Wednesday processed on Thursday and shipped today.

Teichi

Re: Service or CMP Special Garand Receiver Quality
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2014, 02:27:40 PM »
I saw spam cans for sale on the CMP Estore.

ren

Re: Service or CMP Special Garand Receiver Quality
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2014, 04:00:23 PM »
be careful when choosing powder and charge weight.
The Garand's oprod can bend if the burning rate of the powder is too slow or fast
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Service or CMP Special Garand Receiver Quality
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2014, 09:07:03 AM »
The spam cans are listed in estore for 150.00 plus 30.00 shipping to hawaii.
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Paul96734

Re: Service or CMP Special Garand Receiver Quality
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2014, 11:42:41 AM »
be careful when choosing powder and charge weight.
The Garand's oprod can bend if the burning rate of the powder is too slow or fast

Very true for both cartridges. A gas plug might be the best fall back safety measure.

I am noticing that more re-loadable .30-06 brass seems to be available online now than .308. Possibly because the .30-06 is now more of a "hunting" round, while the .308 is being bought up by the AR-10 community?

A few spam cans of re-loadable Greek .30-06 seems like a good deal now.