No more solar panels without "environmental study" in some areas? (Read 16309 times)

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Re: No more solar panels without "environmental study" in some areas?
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2011, 11:19:01 AM »
Deep cycle is the best. A lot of people are buying recycled golf cart batteries 6 volt each. I have a customer on the big island who uses car batteries. He gets them from the junk yards for $15 each. Just need to match the amps on the batteries.
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Re: No more solar panels without "environmental study" in some areas?
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2011, 06:14:56 PM »
I am in the Solar Industry.  HECO is full of it.  They will lose a lot of $$ if everyone did Solar.  What they tell/show you is only to look good as a business.  Unfortunately we still need them because Eletrical Storage is non-exsistant because batteries are still too inefficient and Wind Turbines have to rely on having wind.  I have been working on making a self sufficient sub division project for 2 years now.  Supplying power to 200 homes is really a pain when you have limited back up. A Mini Nuclear plant would be nice!

How about 23 of them :) they are in the water in the center of our island.
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Re: No more solar panels without "environmental study" in some areas?
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2011, 07:40:07 PM »
I am in the Solar Industry.  HECO is full of it.  They will lose a lot of $$ if everyone did Solar.  What they tell/show you is only to look good as a business.  Unfortunately we still need them because Eletrical Storage is non-exsistant because batteries are still too inefficient and Wind Turbines have to rely on having wind.  I have been working on making a self sufficient sub division project for 2 years now.  Supplying power to 200 homes is really a pain when you have limited back up. A Mini Nuclear plant would be nice!

How about 23 of them :) they are in the water in the center of our island.

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Re: No more solar panels without "environmental study" in some areas?
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2011, 06:46:16 PM »
u guys talking about submarines/carriers?

here's my first month of solar.  its been pretty interesting, lately we've met a couple of older ppl that have had solar for a long time. they love it.

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Re: No more solar panels without "environmental study" in some areas?
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2011, 07:45:15 PM »
mokeanne, nice results.  Seems like your bill went down a bunch but HECO wont let you off that easy.

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Re: No more solar panels without "environmental study" in some areas?
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2011, 08:03:04 PM »
wow thanks for sharing that bill

Just saw a news report that people have been "sold" on false advertising on multiple circuit systems and filing for more tax credits than they should get.  Hope you weren't one of those customers.  According to the news, no one is supposed to get more than $5,000 in tax credits regardless of how many circuits you have installed. 

I still think you come out ahead based on what i've seen so far.

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Re: No more solar panels without "environmental study" in some areas?
« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2011, 12:25:34 AM »
Mokeanne,
That energy production is outstanding! 

Looking at my last bill, if that system was on my roof I would only have to pay HECO   <1 KWH and hook up fees, avg per month. 

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Re: No more solar panels without "environmental study" in some areas?
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2011, 10:35:33 PM »
you can also thank the Public Utility Commission for the increase of costs:

What:                 Sept 30, the PUC turned down HECO's  proposed contract to buy locally grown biodiesel from Aina Koa Pono

Why:                  The PUC was concerned about the potential high cost to customers.

What’s next:  It 's too soon to know what AKP will do. However, using biofuel in HECO power plants absolutely still makes sense. 

                              We’ve signed several other biofuel contracts, each with its own pricing formula, and they’ll be filed with the PUC this year for their consideration.

 

Read on for more details............

 

As you may have heard, yesterday the Public Utilities Commission issued a decision turning down our proposed contract to buy biodiesel from Aina Koa Pono, citing concerns about the potential high cost.  AKP is a local start-up that wants to grow crops in Ka'u on Hawaii Island to make biodiesel for Keahole Power Plant and possibly later for our other power plants. It's the first of four local biofuel contracts we've signed to date.

 

The decision is very disappointing.  But our basic strategy to switch to using renewable biofuels in our fossil-fueled units still makes sense. In its decision, the PUC did restate its support for locally grown and processed biofuels to use in existing fossil-fired generating units.

 

You may be asked why we are continuing to pursue using biofuels.  Here’s why:

 

·        It can help stabilize customer bills: Using biofuels at prices based on long-term contracts and more stable rates can be a good hedge against volatile oil prices.  The current unpredictability of electricity prices based on oil costs is a huge source of frustration for our customers and damaging to our economy.

 

·        It’s a way to get “green” existing firm generation.  As we add more solar, wind and other variable renewable energy sources, we also need firm power available on demand. Biofuels are also a bridge to a future with other firm renewables like geothermal or OTEC.

 

·        It can help nurture local agriculture. That takes big investments by landowners and biofuel developers. Creating a market for locally grown energy will help them get financing to make those investments. We’ll avoid sending millions of dollars that currently flow out of our state to buy oil.  Instead that money can stay here benefiting Hawaii’s economy.

 

·        It’s good for energy security and the environment. Our supply of local energy can not be cut off like the oil that arrives by tanker every week. Our environment benefits too. Biofuels result in significantly lower sulfur dioxide and other air emissions.

 

Bottom line, using biofuels – along with many other renewable energy sources – can provide local, more stably priced energy that's good for Hawaii today and the Hawaii of our kids tomorrow.

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Re: No more solar panels without "environmental study" in some areas?
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2011, 03:46:48 AM »
Houdni,
It sounds like HECO wants to switch to biofuels to have higher but more stable prices. Is that the gist of it?
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Re: No more solar panels without "environmental study" in some areas?
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2011, 08:30:48 AM »
Houdni, do you have any actual numbers you can share with us?  I know its asking a lot and might be breach of contract or something.