Teaching Only for Non Profits at Kokohead? (Read 4119 times)

841gun

Teaching Only for Non Profits at Kokohead?
« on: November 14, 2014, 07:26:40 PM »
Hey guys I heard this from a friend.  Wondering if any of you can shed some light on this.  Rumor has it that only non profits can teach gun safety classes at Kokohead? this is to include pistol and rifle side not just bays.
This is a news to me as ive seen many people taught there including myself and id really hate for this to be true. 

anyone?
thanks

zippz

Re: Teaching Only for Non Profits at Kokohead?
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2014, 07:37:00 PM »
Hey guys I heard this from a friend.  Wondering if any of you can shed some light on this.  Rumor has it that only non profits can teach gun safety classes at Kokohead? this is to include pistol and rifle side not just bays.
This is a news to me as ive seen many people taught there including myself and id really hate for this to be true. 
anyone?
thanks

That's what I've heard too.  Life and HDF are not for profits so they're good.  Might be some others out there too.  Can't have commercial businesses at the range.  Could be some groups are not getting charged for classes such as for friends or clubs.  Though I bet some are doing it commercially.

BTW not for profits and non-profits are good to go.  What the difference is I don't know.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2014, 07:49:57 PM by zippz »

841gun

Re: Teaching Only for Non Profits at Kokohead?
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2014, 07:39:50 PM »
so have all the other instructors been doing this wrong? if so, wont this slow down the rate as to how many people can get affidavits? can this be fixed?

zippz

Re: Teaching Only for Non Profits at Kokohead?
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2014, 07:44:37 PM »
so have all the other instructors been doing this wrong? if so, wont this slow down the rate as to how many people can get affidavits? can this be fixed?

You mean instructors that do it commercially?  Yes.  If they are charging fees then they have to join a group such as LIFE, Chinese gun club, etc or start their own not for profit organization which takes a long time, I think a year from what I hear.  Or the instructors could not charge fees and do it for free.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2014, 07:50:58 PM by zippz »

841gun

Re: Teaching Only for Non Profits at Kokohead?
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2014, 07:51:10 PM »
if someone did that, then they wouldnt make money correct.  guess can still use xring new place or magnum.

Tom_G

Re: Teaching Only for Non Profits at Kokohead?
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2014, 11:44:10 AM »
Correct.  One cannot use a public park for a commercial venture.  Not-for-profits may charge fees for events at public parks because, as not-for-profits, their events are inherently non-commercial. 

That being said, I don't believe there is any vehicle in place for enforcement.  And there are certainly ways a commercial operator could construct a class to work around that.  For example, you charge for classroom instruction, but provide two free hours of range time. 
The difference between theory and reality is that, in theory, there is no difference between theory and reality.

Tom_G

Re: Teaching Only for Non Profits at Kokohead?
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2014, 11:47:27 AM »
BTW not for profits and non-profits are good to go.  What the difference is I don't know.

No difference, just the trendy language has shifted.  Well, no practical difference. 
The difference between theory and reality is that, in theory, there is no difference between theory and reality.

ren

Re: Teaching Only for Non Profits at Kokohead?
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2014, 12:19:02 PM »
Well theres that one Japanese guy in the rifle side that has a lot of friends and family. 8)
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talula

Re: Teaching Only for Non Profits at Kokohead?
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2014, 12:42:10 PM »
Well theres that one Japanese guy in the rifle side that has a lot of friends and family. 8)
Yup see him and his (friends) all the time.
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