Build or buy an ar 15 (Read 44405 times)

beekeeping1341

Build or buy an ar 15
« on: January 01, 2015, 07:52:44 AM »
This is my first post as a member here, and any forum period so bear with me here lol. I am strongly considering building my own ar with top of the line parts but would I be better of just getting a complete rifle lime a noveske? I was planning on using a noveske barrel and bcg anyways. If it helps at all the build I'm planning is running around 2600 bucks, sans optics...so far ;) are bullpups even seriously worth considering? I'm attracted to the idea of bullpups but most are pretty pricy and have shitty triggers that you'll need to upgrade anyways. I appreciate Amy of your thoughts/ ideas. Oh and my rifle is going to be for shtf, and anything else it needs to be for. Thoughts on 6.8 spc would be great too
I sure as hell don't need a permit to choose my religion, so why the hell do I need a permit to acquire a firearm?

Paul96734

Re: Build or buy an ar 15
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2015, 08:00:58 AM »
Welcome to the forum.

Please check out this older thread as it may answer some of your questions:

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=13986.0

TastesLikeMetal

Re: Build or buy an ar 15
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2015, 08:37:19 AM »
Welcome to the forums, if it's for shtf have you considered training your bee's to attack humans...  That would be badass :thumbsup: :stopjack:

ren

Re: Build or buy an ar 15
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2015, 09:32:43 AM »
Welcome to the forums, if it's for shtf have you considered training your bee's to attack humans...  That would be badass :thumbsup: :stopjack:

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edster48

Re: Build or buy an ar 15
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2015, 10:06:31 AM »
Welcome to 2A!
As you can see from some of the early responses we're kind of crazy here, but in a fun way. Don't worry, the guys start to grow on you { kind of like that fungus your doctor warned you about }.    >:D

As to your question, it depends on a few things.

Do you have some basic mechanical skills?

Are you willing to invest in the tools needed to accomplish the build?

Do you have the patience to work through the fitment and function issues that will arise?

If you answered "yes" to all these questions, building your own AR could be for you!

I built my own, with some help from my son, an experienced armorer, and I chose mostly Noveske myself. I went with a Rainier Arms barrel and Nib bcg. Also a CMC 3.5 lb. trigger. I saved a buttload of money compared to purchasing a complete Noveske rifle and it shoots great. With a $2,600 budget you should be able to build an awesome rifle! I spent about half that on mine. Good luck on your build, look forward to seeing it!

« Last Edit: January 01, 2015, 10:14:39 AM by edster48 »
Always be yourself.
Unless you can be a pirate.
Then always be a pirate.

dafrtknocker

Re: Build or buy an ar 15
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2015, 10:07:25 AM »
Do both, buy a cheap AR, then build your 'Dream Gun', because you always need a backup.

oldfart

Re: Build or buy an ar 15
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2015, 10:08:22 AM »
Welcome aboard.
If you are a competent rifle marksman, then go for whatever tickles you pickle.
If not, then buy a decent ar and invest in time and ammo to become proficient.
What, Me Worry?

Kingkeoni

Re: Build or buy an ar 15
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2015, 10:34:41 AM »
With a $2600 budget, you can buy a top tier AR.

That's the way to go.

Most people that build AR's fall into 1 of 3 categories...

1)  build on a budget guys trying to save money
2) tinkerers that just want to say that they built it
3) minute of angle chasers that want absolutely every single new and/or proven piece on their rifle to have 1/8" moa accuracy
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

dogman

Re: Build or buy an ar 15
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2015, 10:53:58 AM »
Welcome Beekeeping and Happy New Year All!
You mention SHTF rifle, bullpups and $2600.00 build. If SHTF, a bullpup is not a bad choice and also fun to shoot. A Tavor and Geissele trigger pack are around two grand. Pick up two or three stripped AR lower receivers to register at the same time and build later after you get some tools and knowledge. Good luck!
« Last Edit: January 01, 2015, 11:00:10 AM by dogman »

z06psi

Re: Build or buy an ar 15
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2015, 11:15:11 AM »
Tavor!!!!!!!!  I say skip the Geissele trigger.  I removed the extra spring and have had zero issues. Midwest industries fore end with the light and a good red dot.


« Last Edit: January 01, 2015, 11:26:21 AM by z06psi »

JHanawahine

Re: Build or buy an ar 15
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2015, 11:18:22 AM »
I like the idea of building my own...but would buy a top tier rifle if I had the money

z06psi

Re: Build or buy an ar 15
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2015, 11:31:22 AM »
For comparison and they have the same length barrels, range and purpose.

« Last Edit: January 01, 2015, 11:43:01 AM by z06psi »

aieahound

Re: Build or buy an ar 15
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2015, 12:04:48 PM »
Do both, buy a cheap AR, then build your 'Dream Gun', because you always need a backup.

+1

2 is 1, 1 is none.

Kingkeoni

Re: Build or buy an ar 15
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2015, 12:06:04 PM »
For comparison and they have the same length barrels, range and purpose.



Who's going to be the first to say it?
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

edster48

Re: Build or buy an ar 15
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2015, 12:09:45 PM »
With a $2600 budget, you can buy a top tier AR.

That's the way to go.

Most people that build AR's fall into 1 of 3 categories...

1)  build on a budget guys trying to save money
2) tinkerers that just want to say that they built it
3) minute of angle chasers that want absolutely every single new and/or proven piece on their rifle to have 1/8" moa accuracy

I have to admit, I fall into at least 2 of those categories!

1. I'm a cheap bastard, and I want the best bang for my buck.

2. I enjoy building and working on mechanical things and figuring out how they work.

3. Accuracy is always a goal, though I don't think I'd chase it to the 1/8th MOA level.

I think you left one out though. Function.
 After reading about and seeing people at the range have all manner of issues with even "high end" AR's I wanted something that would perform under the most adverse of conditions, even when subjected to abuse and lack of maintenance. Basically an AR with the reliability of an AK. I based my build on my sons AR due to the fact that after uncounted 3 gun matches, nearly 30,000 rounds, getting dirt and debris inside the gun, and never cleaning it { he says "when it starts to sound shitty, I squirt some oil in it"} it has NEVER malfunctioned. That's right, never, not once. Oh yeah, it still shoots sub MOA! I chose the parts with this in mind, and I haven't been disappointed. Not one single issue from the very first shot, and it shoots sub MOA. Added benefits are that I know the rifle intimately and in the unlikely event I do experience an issue, I'll be able to readily fix it myself.

Not an argument, just my personal line of reasoning. Everyone should do what suits their needs best.

Always be yourself.
Unless you can be a pirate.
Then always be a pirate.

macsak

Re: Build or buy an ar 15
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2015, 12:14:56 PM »
Who's going to be the first to say it?

 :wave:

z06psi

Re: Build or buy an ar 15
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2015, 12:33:21 PM »
Who's going to be the first to say it?

Let me guess.  The front sight is on backwards.  My weapon and it doesn't matter with those sights.  Not one bit.

drck1000

Re: Build or buy an ar 15
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2015, 12:36:01 PM »
Is this your first AR? (Sorry if I missed it if you mentioned)

If it's your first AR, I would highly recommend going to with a good quality AR and ammo to get familiar with it. When it comes to building ARs, to me, it's a out getting the exact configuration that you want and that can usually cost just as much and if not more than a complete gun. With a $2600 budget for a SHTF purpose gun, your options are pretty wide open.

Regarding bullpup a, I have limited experiences with them, but I'd love to own a Tavor or FS2000. However, those things aren't cheap...

macsak

Re: Build or buy an ar 15
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2015, 12:37:45 PM »
Let me guess.  The front sight is on backwards.  My weapon and it doesn't matter with those sights.  Not one bit.

nope
 :crazy:

z06psi

Re: Build or buy an ar 15
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2015, 12:43:23 PM »
nope
 :crazy:

Keep your circle of trust then.