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hvybarrels

London Burning
« on: August 10, 2011, 01:23:26 AM »
I used to thing 12ga was the way to go as far as home defense. Now I'm thinking fire extinguishers.
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Re: London Burning
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2011, 02:28:29 AM »
Well you should have fire extinguishers anyway. What was that saying about fire extinguishers and firearms...
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Re: London Burning
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2011, 06:19:17 AM »
Consider this:

During the LA riots (Rodney King 1992), some business owners were able to save their buildings by standing guard with firearms. 



btw, I need more fire extinguishers.  thanks for the reminder hvy.

   

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Re: London Burning
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2011, 07:43:19 AM »
Another from the LA Riots... Car pulled up and opened fire at the shop owners, they in turn returned fire... It should be noted, that during this exchange of gun fire, the police were in the area, and did nothing to stop the looters or car full of shooters when it all went down...

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Re: London Burning
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2011, 10:34:21 AM »
I had a friend who's business was in the thick of the riots. He was smart about his defenses. Not only was he at his building 24/7, armed and ready to engage as needed. However, he also took his torch and burned the edges of the 4x8 plywood sheets to simulate having been burned while affixed to the building. He then put the burned 4x8 sheets on the windows and doors and then sat on his roof waiting....luckily no one tried to break in to the building, thinking it had already been hit.

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Re: London Burning
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2011, 11:03:02 AM »
I had a friend who's business was in the thick of the riots. He was smart about his defenses. Not only was he at his building 24/7, armed and ready to engage as needed. However, he also took his torch and burned the edges of the 4x8 plywood sheets to simulate having been burned while affixed to the building. He then put the burned 4x8 sheets on the windows and doors and then sat on his roof waiting....luckily no one tried to break in to the building, thinking it had already been hit.

Smart man. 

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Re: London Burning
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2011, 06:54:39 PM »
I had a friend who's business was in the thick of the riots. He was smart about his defenses. Not only was he at his building 24/7, armed and ready to engage as needed. However, he also took his torch and burned the edges of the 4x8 plywood sheets to simulate having been burned while affixed to the building. He then put the burned 4x8 sheets on the windows and doors and then sat on his roof waiting....luckily no one tried to break in to the building, thinking it had already been hit.

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Re: London Burning
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2011, 07:17:53 PM »
Consider this:

 



btw, I need more fire extinguishers.  thanks for the reminder hvy.

 
Cool pic Jaydawg! Very inspiring and powerful...I never seen that one before...
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Re: London Burning
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2011, 04:31:42 AM »
Tony (GS) said he was there during the LA riots and was saved by his AR-15. I don't know if he was BSing, though.
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Re: London Burning
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2011, 09:48:50 AM »
Tony (GS) said he was there during the LA riots and was saved by his AR-15. I don't know if he was BSing, though.

He is not BSing.

If you look closely at the picture, Tony is the third guy.

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Re: London Burning
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2011, 11:43:06 AM »
From Gunfacts v 6.0:

Recall the Rodney King riots in that anti-gun city of Los Angeles. Every major news network carried footage of Korean storeowners sitting on the roofs of their stores,
armed with “assault weapons.” Those were the stores that did not get burned to the ground, and those were the people that were not dragged into the street and beaten by
rioters.

“You can’t get around the image of people shooting at people to protect their stores and it working. This is damaging to the [gun control] movement.” -Josh Sugarmann, executive director of the Violence Policy Center, Washington Post, May 18, 1993

These pictures and any video you've got cannot be shown enough.  The gun grabbers know their policies are bullshit, they admit their policies are bullshit, but they just keep on keepin' on.  If the executive director of VPC thinks those pics are damaging to his cause, it goes without saying that we need to show them to everyone who will look.  Like new daddies with baby pictures: "Hey, tired stranger on a city bus, have you ever seen the pictures of those Korean guys manning the parapets during the Rodney King riots?  They're adorable; let me show you!"
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hvybarrels

Re: London Burning
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2011, 01:05:48 PM »
Thanks for sharing those images. Another important thing to learn from them is those Koreans were working together. One guy even with solid mbr skills can get overrun really quick. Nobody is going to stay awake for days and beyond a certain point the fatigue from hours and hours on watch will make all those preps less useful.

Also I didn't sell my 12ga for fire extinguishers, and was making the statement with the assumption that people can own more than one thing at a time. That said in a situation where things are out of wack for weeks it would be nice to have an extinguisher that could be recharged multiple times with an air compressor. Seriously thinking about hooking up one of these. I came across a couple used ones and am kicking myself for not jumping on them when I had the chance.

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Re: London Burning
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2011, 02:07:54 PM »
Look into AFFF (aqueous film-forming foam).  We use them on submarines, they're good for Class A and B (burning solids like paper, wood, etc; and liquids, like the Molotov cocktail that just came through the front window) and they're refilled easily with a little packet of the main ingredient (essentially soap), water, and compressed air.  They work better than plain water for Class A fires, and can be used for burning liquids.  Pretty much the same as the extinguisher that guy's talking about, but the soapy additive allows it to cover and smother a flammable liquid, whereas obviously pure water would splatter the flames all over the place.
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Re: London Burning
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2011, 04:19:41 PM »
Tremors, Burt Gummer, "Full  Auto, preferably belt fed"  Think Dillon Aero M134 mini gun......

I was told that the older immigrant LA Koreans were products of Mandatory Military Service and it showed in their preparations.

Also, after the Riots, hunting rifles and shotguns were traded in for ARs and the like.