No obligation to protect property... (Read 19242 times)

ren

Deeds Not Words

edster48

Re: No obligation to protect property...
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2015, 07:07:11 PM »
Bet she would've been all over it if they were doing 10 mph over the speed limit and couldn't produce a valid insurance card though!
Always be yourself.
Unless you can be a pirate.
Then always be a pirate.

yurcarmeean

Re: No obligation to protect property...
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2015, 10:15:38 PM »
If you stay ready, you don't have to get ready.

mauidog

Re: No obligation to protect property...
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2015, 11:32:21 PM »
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A police supervisor tried to meet with the restaurant management yesterday, but they weren't available.

Oh, like that's going to help anything now!  She had the crooks in sight, and she ..... called for back up?    :wtf:

I hope this Cop gets fired.  There's forgivable mistakes, and then there is plain lazy and incompetent!

Guarantee you, these same thieves have hit more than just these two places. 

She could have gotten these two slimes off the streets for a little while and saved who knows how many other business, home and car owners the headache and expense of these two criminals' activities.

An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

Pizzo

Re: No obligation to protect property...
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2015, 06:51:40 AM »
Sounds to me like this officer belongs in D6 and NOT D7 night shift.

aieahound

Re: No obligation to protect property...
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2015, 08:57:48 AM »
"She looked like she came into the restaurant with high beams on."     :shake:  :rofl:

Rocky

Re: No obligation to protect property...
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2015, 10:21:53 AM »


OMFG !!!!!!!
 :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:

     Thats the best laugh I've had in awhile. !
Thanx.
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Rocky

Re: No obligation to protect property...
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2015, 10:26:24 AM »
HPD To Protect, To Serve To take notes.   :(
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ren

Re: No obligation to protect property...
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2015, 10:41:53 AM »

No ways. Can't believe that...must've been a movie scene
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yurcarmeean

Re: No obligation to protect property...
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2015, 10:45:00 AM »
No ways. Can't believe that...must've been a movie scene

Most likely, still hilarious
 :rofl:

Sooo....if there is no obligation to protect private property then Upholding the law is optionable?

I guess they pick battles they can win.
If you stay ready, you don't have to get ready.

mauidog

Re: No obligation to protect property...
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2015, 12:38:36 PM »
Most likely, still hilarious
 :rofl:

Sooo....if there is no obligation to protect private property then Upholding the law is optionable?

I guess they pick battles they can win.

It was during the filming of a movie.  That clip's been around for awhile on FB.  You can even hear the direction being given on load speaker during the scene.
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

kong

Re: No obligation to protect property...
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2015, 02:02:00 PM »
I wouldn't Monday-morning quarterback but will say one officer and two suspects.  I am not for single officer patrol cars though.

PeaShooter

Re: No obligation to protect property...
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2015, 03:47:45 PM »
Even I have to confront trespassers and pseudo-burglars (people stealing fruit) on my property, sometimes on a weekly basis. There are usually at least 2 trespassers every time this happens, and I'm typically alone. On several occasions the trespassers refused to heed my command to leave and became aggressive. Even after calling the police countless times, they can't do much, and for the most part I am left to my own devices to deal with it.

I can understand a female police officer not wanting to confront 2 males, but considering what the police leave me to deal with on my own, she has to.

Also, even if she did not want to confront the robbers, why couldn't she have just followed them in her patrol car?
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Rocky

Re: No obligation to protect property...
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2015, 04:16:08 PM »
I passed both links around and got this back from somebody.

That was a big miss!! 
We love Serg's in Manao and Waimanalo and sorry they are getting hit.
 If police policy is for a lone officer to call for back up, then there should be two officers in every squad car. 
I guess that is not efficient, so they just let the damn burglars go. 
Who want's to chase down a crack head anyway?  Prosecuter just lets them out of jail, since they are over crowded. 
We should send all our crack heads to Colorado so they can smoke pot and get off the crack. 
Cheers,

Rehab ? :crazy:
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yurcarmeean

Re: No obligation to protect property...
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2015, 05:53:21 PM »


I can understand a female police officer not wanting to confront 2 males, but considering what the police leave me to deal with on my own, she has to.


that sucks that people steal your fruits, i have a mango tree, thank goodness i live in a quiet cul de sac, but i smell you, once in a while people will come to my door asking for mangoes, despite the NO TRESPASSING and BEWARE OF DOG signs........ only to be told "NO, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU MY MANGOES, I DON'T KNOW YOU" :rofl:

I wouldn't give any officer the benefit of the double standard, gender or sex doesn't matter when they all wear the same uniforms and have the exact same duties to uphold the same laws.  There is no space for discrepancy in duties due to difference in gender, when these people have dedicated their lives to serving their duty and upholding the law, duty and law shouldn't bend for lack of male organs, the double standard exists but there is no place for it in the police department

if i may suggest, get a DOG, best theft deterrent ever (and best friend)   :thumbsup:
If you stay ready, you don't have to get ready.

oldfart

Re: No obligation to protect property...
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2015, 05:58:02 PM »
My boy is studying criminolgy and criminal justice in college.
He said that the officer did exactly the correct thing.
What, Me Worry?

kong

Re: No obligation to protect property...
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2015, 07:00:38 PM »
Fuck it she should have just shot the mother fuckers dead.   (Sarcasm)

edster48

Re: No obligation to protect property...
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2015, 07:40:32 PM »

How long was it before another officer arrived on scene?
I've been pulled over for a headlight out and had 3 cars roll up inside of a couple of minutes. Hell, on my way home from work today in Waikiki I saw no fewer than 6 cops and four marked cars writing up a bum for something. On my drive into work, daily, I see between 3 and 5 cars patrolling Kalanianiole. But they couldn't spare more than one for a burglary in progress?

Guess their priorities are different from ours......
Always be yourself.
Unless you can be a pirate.
Then always be a pirate.

mauidog

Re: No obligation to protect property...
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2015, 08:01:16 PM »
My boy is studying criminolgy and criminal justice in college.
He said that the officer did exactly the correct thing.

Was there an explanation to go along with that opinion?  I'd be very interested to know why she couldn't have given chase, maybe caught one, and let the other keep going. Normally one will roll on the other to cut a deal.

I believe this state, which is probably not unique, views property crime as a low priority.  With drugs driving the need feed a habit, stealing becomes commonplace.  Meth is the problem, but theft and muggings are the symptoms.

So, it doesn't surprise me if the officer was following policy and procedures.  It just flies in the face of Carlisle's declaration that officers have a sworn duty to protect Hawaii's residents.  I guess they draw a line between physical safety and financial loss.  Not everyone has insurance and/or affordable deductibles.
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

new guy

Re: No obligation to protect property...
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2015, 08:22:05 PM »
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