Woman critically wounded at indoor shooting range in Waikiki (Read 19252 times)

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Woman critically wounded at indoor shooting range in Waikiki
« on: August 13, 2011, 12:24:14 PM »
By Star-Advertiser staff

POSTED: 07:16 p.m. HST, Aug 12, 2011




A woman believed to be in her 30s is in critical condition after suffering an apparent gunshot wound to the head at an indoor shooting range in Waikiki Friday evening.

Police are investigating the incident, which occurred around 6:30 p.m. No further details are yet available.

Cougar8045

Re: Woman critically wounded at indoor shooting range in Waikiki
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2011, 12:38:38 PM »
This was under discussion at the HawaiiCCW facebook page.  Apparently it happened at the SWAT range, not the other one, the Royal Hawaiian Shooting Society, IIRC.  Do we know anything else about the incident yet?
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Re: Woman critically wounded at indoor shooting range in Waikiki
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2011, 01:03:11 PM »
That's horrible news. The first thing I thought of was a suicide attempt, but without further details, it could be anything.
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Re: Woman critically wounded at indoor shooting range in Waikiki
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2011, 01:40:01 PM »
That's uhh. Wow that's some shit right there.

Here comes "never waste a crisis". Brace yourselves.

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Re: Woman critically wounded at indoor shooting range in Waikiki
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2011, 03:18:21 PM »
Whether suicide or accident, it will likely garner some press that will be negative toward guns/gun owners. In reality, and what will likely never be reported, is that such instances, especially with japaneses tourists that generally have NO experience handling guns, are caused by a lack of attention by the gun range/range master. Stupid.

buckjay

Re: Woman critically wounded at indoor shooting range in Waikiki
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2011, 08:00:26 PM »
Confirmed to be a suicide.

This is just sad but selfish at the same time.

Cougar8045

Re: Woman critically wounded at indoor shooting range in Waikiki
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2011, 08:26:24 PM »
Well, at least that removes the incident from the table as far as 2A rights are concerned.
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Re: Woman critically wounded at indoor shooting range in Waikiki
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2011, 01:01:32 AM »
Can't really do much when some idiot wants to kill themselves. They could have easily leaped off of their hotel room.
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Re: Woman critically wounded at indoor shooting range in Waikiki
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2011, 02:20:29 AM »
Can't really do much when some idiot wants to kill themselves. They could have easily leaped off of their hotel room.
That's true, but it's still unfortunate. It's things like this that make me avoid ranges that rent out guns.
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Heavies

Re: Woman critically wounded at indoor shooting range in Waikiki
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2011, 03:40:27 AM »
This is sad. 

The RSO must have really not been paying attention.  I thought all those rent a gun places had them tied up to the walls so the shooter cannot point the gun anywhere but down range.

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Re: Woman critically wounded at indoor shooting range in Waikiki
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2011, 06:53:21 AM »
This is sad. 

The RSO must have really not been paying attention.  I thought all those rent a gun places had them tied up to the walls so the shooter cannot point the gun anywhere but down range.

There's not really all that much a RSO can do in this situation. If someone wants to kill themselves badly enough, they will. It must have been a terrible experience for the others at the range and will probably continue to be a pain for the range it happened at.
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Re: Woman critically wounded at indoor shooting range in Waikiki
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2011, 08:09:31 AM »
Confirmed to be a suicide.

This is just sad but selfish at the same time.
Source?

buckjay

Re: Woman critically wounded at indoor shooting range in Waikiki
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2011, 09:18:38 AM »
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/127668418.html

Not only is a suicide extremely selfish (there are always people in your life that will be affected, no one can be a big enough ass hole that no one will care) but is also extremely selfish to do it in such manner that affects the people at the range at the time, the owners of the range, and the ignorant public perception of guns (omg look, if guns were illegal this poor lady would not have shot herself!!!!).

I got no sympathy for this woman. If you're such a coward that you want to end your life atleast have the decency to do it in a respectful manner.

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Re: Woman critically wounded at indoor shooting range in Waikiki
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2011, 09:59:34 AM »
This is sad. 

The RSO must have really not been paying attention.  I thought all those rent a gun places had them tied up to the walls so the shooter cannot point the gun anywhere but down range.

you can still point them up to your head.  I went there and shot  the packages at swat and wgs, years ago.    The rso isnt at fault for this.

PeaShooter

Re: Woman critically wounded at indoor shooting range in Waikiki
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2011, 10:10:29 AM »
Top of a hotel might be guaranteed death, but some people may believe that a gunshot wound to the head is a more painless way to do it.

I don't think it is appropriate to criticize someone who kills themself but that is just my opinion. I feel that people have the right to be selfish. Telling someone that they can't act selfishly seems ridiculous to me. Furthermore this woman presumably had no obligations to the shooting community, like all of us here do.

If anything, this event could provide pro-gun rationale. "If this woman had been allowed to easily own a gun, she could have shot herself at home instead of at the range."

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Re: Woman critically wounded at indoor shooting range in Waikiki
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2011, 04:20:59 PM »
My bet is this will be gone by next week, and we won't hear anything of it again.

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Cougar8045

Re: Woman critically wounded at indoor shooting range in Waikiki
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2011, 04:30:37 PM »
My bet is this will be gone by next week, and we won't hear anything of it again.
Hopefully so.  It's a pity that she's gone, and my heart goes out to her family, but the less splash this makes in the media, the better it is for the firearms community.
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Heavies

Re: Woman critically wounded at indoor shooting range in Waikiki
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2011, 06:13:43 PM »
Not blaming the RSO at all for this.  If the person wanted to off them self that bad, there would have been nothing they cold do to stop it.
I was not aware the cables could allow that much movement.

808shooter

Re: Woman critically wounded at indoor shooting range in Waikiki
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2011, 06:59:35 PM »
So it was SWAT indoor range?  Here's a video of a lady who looks like a tourist shooting at SWAT.  Seems to me, one could point a gun up and lean over the counter.  I suppose it's possible.

2asupport

Re: Woman critically wounded at indoor shooting range in Waikiki
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2011, 08:43:58 PM »
anyone hear if it was a Japanese tourist or local?