Belt-fed firearms (Read 11180 times)

Veurs1911

Belt-fed firearms
« on: January 28, 2015, 11:19:45 AM »
what are the rules for belt-fed firearms down here, am i able to own one? or at least buy a belt fed AR upper to make sure its semi only, would i be able to shoot it at koko head? although it definitely sucks not being able to rapid fire, (i would throw on a slide fire if i'm ever able to with the tac-con trigger lol) anyways i have yet to see a belt fed firearm down here, and if theyre legal, any rules on capacity for it since its not magazine fed technically?
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Q

Re: Belt-fed firearms
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2015, 12:26:15 PM »
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Veurs1911

Re: Belt-fed firearms
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2015, 01:31:21 PM »
LOL, I don't plan on breaking the law, just gonna walk around it if i'm allowed to bump fire if i ever have the chance, ;) but how about the capacity limit? so if there's none, say i shoot at Koko head, do i still have to put 5 round belt only? I mean its not magazine fed, and 5 rounds only definitely would not be fun.  Hmm speaking of belt feds, since were suppose to weld our magazines if building a pistol here in HI, what if the pistol is belt fed? ;P say like Valkerie Armaments belt fed upper that's pistol length, i think the rounds need to eject through the bottom of the mag well like how a FN P90 ejects its spent cartridges, are we still required to weld a magazine, cause it might impeded the function on the gun, unless i'm wrong about how the round ejects.
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Cpt.Englehorn

Re: Belt-fed firearms
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2015, 02:25:31 PM »
Yes they are allowed, ive seen multiple browning 1919A4 and A6 clones as well as an MG34 and 42, they were also shot at kokohead. One I saw with full length belts and the guy shooting it was being reasonable with rate of fire, the other I saw with an empty link or a dummy round every 6th one.
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Veurs1911

Re: Belt-fed firearms
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2015, 06:45:11 PM »
cool that sounds like you gotta clear a malfunction every 6th round though, is there any current civilian legal modern belt feds? like a FN mini-me, m249, mk48, m240, m60, pkm, rpk, rpd etc. just listing examples of modern ones, i'm hearing about the IWI Negev, will it be available to civilians?
"rather be judged by 12, then carried by 6"

"better to have one and not need it, than to need one and not have it"

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Cpt.Englehorn

Re: Belt-fed firearms
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2015, 07:13:00 PM »
theres a 240, 249, last I heard the M60 was in the works, wiselite is making an MG42, its not cheap even a little bit. Heres one of the top manufacturers making them, their B.A.Rs are excellent as well, have handled and shot a couple of them.


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jonjon

Re: Belt-fed firearms
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2015, 07:24:38 PM »

Tom_G

Re: Belt-fed firearms
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2015, 07:34:39 PM »
The range rules for the action bays say you can load 10 rounds.  Same for the silhouette side, should you get a belt-fed .22.
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suka

Re: Belt-fed firearms
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2015, 08:13:32 PM »
grandma on the M249 at kokohead

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Re: Belt-fed firearms
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2015, 07:43:23 PM »
One  of my customers has a 1919 and a AR15BF with SlideFire.......oh what fun!
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Re: Belt-fed firearms
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2015, 10:53:17 PM »
like this?
made from an Israeli 7.62 NATO parts kit ,  side plate was from Ohio Ordnance with a special personal serial number.
HPD thought it was a full auto after I  built it . I had to educate them on the difference from a FA and a Semi.

 







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Veurs1911

Re: Belt-fed firearms
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2015, 12:47:19 AM »
man that is awesome, i plan on owning a belt fed sometime in the future, although they are expensive, seems like since they wanna restrict mag limits, might as well give the libtards a middle finger, technically i don't have a mag and yes i don't have to reload as often. did HPD check the internals of the gun? how did you even fit it through the registration window!? LOL jk
"rather be judged by 12, then carried by 6"

"better to have one and not need it, than to need one and not have it"

"know guns, no crime, no guns, know crime"

onewaymedia

Re: Belt-fed firearms
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2015, 08:03:03 AM »
Awesome.  Got me wanting a belt-fed ar...

This might happen if I tried building one.  Gotta learn from the experts first. 

Veurs1911

Re: Belt-fed firearms
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2015, 10:43:11 AM »
holy shit, i'd be crying if that happened to me, i seen the prices for those 1919 and they ain't cheap, plus he just assembled it too. I wonder how hard is it to assemble your own parts kit together, I didn't care for belt feds for the longest time although i did slowly gain interest over time, but the main reason i want one is to give a huge F-U to all the gun control advocates, they complain about 30 rd mags being high capacity, they don't even know what high capacity is, i think it would benefit commie states that limit mag capacity but there's no rules about belts, and technically you're not breaking any law.
"rather be judged by 12, then carried by 6"

"better to have one and not need it, than to need one and not have it"

"know guns, no crime, no guns, know crime"

suka

Re: Belt-fed firearms
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2015, 09:05:41 PM »
Some states it's called an ammunition feeding device, and a belt would fall into that catagory.

The window at HPD is pretty big and the 1919 fits easily , the only firearm I could not find under the window was my 50cal AR. the officer had to come around into the lobby to get the serial number.

I paid about $900 total for the parts kit, side plate , rivets, 5000 links, belt loader and a park job.

suka

Re: Belt-fed firearms
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2015, 09:09:12 PM »
50Cal cannon
HPD was like WTF.    :shake:


Veurs1911

Re: Belt-fed firearms
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2015, 12:17:06 AM »
lol that gave me an idea for mounting it on a chair where you sit down aim and shoot, with those spade grips kinda like the planes in WWII or something or like mounted on an ATV but it might be off balance with the weight and what not, wait i thought the parts kit cost way more than 900?
"rather be judged by 12, then carried by 6"

"better to have one and not need it, than to need one and not have it"

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suka

Re: Belt-fed firearms
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2015, 12:32:52 AM »
They were $250 + $30 shipping to Hawaii
Complete guns were at cheapest $895 from AA

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Veurs1911

Re: Belt-fed firearms
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2015, 12:23:47 PM »
ohh ok, i was looking at the parts at ohio ordnance inc. cool, how did you get a m249?? did you build it as well?
"rather be judged by 12, then carried by 6"

"better to have one and not need it, than to need one and not have it"

"know guns, no crime, no guns, know crime"