Ask JHanawahine about this crap. He said they told him had to get the letter for all future purchases/registrations because once flagged, always flagged.

And he had high blood pressure or cholesterol or some other thing that's totally unrelated. 

Ask JHanawahine about this crap. He said they told him had to get the letter for all future purchases/registrations because once flagged, always flagged.

And he had high blood pressure or cholesterol or some other thing that's totally unrelated. 

I think it was counseling for diabetes.  But, yeah, they flagged it because of the referral for "counseling."

I think it was counseling for diabetes.  But, yeah, they flagged it because of the referral for "counseling."

So now he has to go through this shit every time he buys a new firearm? That means me too then.
Update, I went to outside dr just now got cleared and the dr is gonna fax and mail hpd the letter. I'm now gonna call my original pcp at Kaiser show him my letter, then hopefully he can log in the system I'm good for future requests.
I'm bout ready to change insurance the hell with Kaiser already

Kaiser's terrible.

Slightly OT but after having to take someone there once (no car) with severe fever/clammy/chills/etc. There was some sports game on (UH probably) and the ER receptionist literally told us to wait until the commercial break. I was furious. This is the one over by Red Hill about 2-3 years ago.

Now they're striking and I drive past every day. 0 sympathy which is a shame since probably not all are bad.

I think it was counseling for diabetes.  But, yeah, they flagged it because of the referral for "counseling."

J didn't get (or need) any counseling. Might have been a at-risk for diabetes assessment when he turns 50 or some crap but it was his Dr. That screwed him for no particular reason.

It was nothing related to fitness to own a firearm.

Hopefully once cleared always Cleared Scar !

J didn't get (or need) any counseling. Might have been a at-risk for diabetes assessment when he turns 50 or some crap but it was his Dr. That screwed him for no particular reason.

It was nothing related to fitness to own a firearm.

Hopefully once cleared always Cleared Scar !

Thanks! I'll keep ya updated with what my doc says n does.

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J didn't get (or need) any counseling. Might have been a at-risk for diabetes assessment when he turns 50 or some crap but it was his Dr. That screwed him for no particular reason.

It was nothing related to fitness to own a firearm.

Hopefully once cleared always Cleared Scar !

That case is actually a bit different.  There are indications that the physician sent HPD a "flag" in retaliation for not doing a follow-up examination.  This was practically confirmed by an assistant after going to the physician and getting a clearance letter.  As I recall, this also was not under Kaiser.

I couldn't begin to guess why it makes a difference between cases as far as "once flagged, always flagged" but people under Kaiser haven't said they have gone through this... yet...

Sorry this happened to you, as well as many others.  Perhaps all of you can get together and do a class action lawsuit against Kaiser for infringement of your civil rights.  I'd bet you could find many to join the suit and break up the cost. Maybe some lawyer would take this to them.  This type of infringment needs to stop!

Sorry this happened to you, as well as many others.  Perhaps all of you can get together and do a class action lawsuit against Kaiser for infringement of your civil rights.  I'd bet you could find many to join the suit and break up the cost. Maybe some lawyer would take this to them.  This type of infringment needs to stop!

This sounds like  great idea. I'm still waiting on my pcp to get back to me so I can hand deliver my letter from another dr saying I'm legit.  This is such a hardship and makes registration more difficult than it already is. Plus having to spend more money n more time off work. makes me upset with the total amount this new glock I'm purchAsing is costing more like  hk or sig. Wth!
If any of you 2a members on here experiencing the same or similar thing PleAse pm me. If we get enough of us ld like to see if we can a lawyer involved. Mahalo

So I talked with mt pcp and explained my concerns regarding this whole issue. Apparently the only thing they can do is attach and scan this letter to my file now. Still gives me no explanation if I have to go through this crappy process everytime I purchase something new.

So I talked with mt pcp and explained my concerns regarding this whole issue. Apparently the only thing they can do is attach and scan this letter to my file now. Still gives me no explanation if I have to go through this crappy process everytime I purchase something new.

As Funtimes said, file a UIPA to get the actual records HPD is using to say you were flagged. Review them to see what that "flag" is and to make sure they are your records and not some erroneous entry. If there is no reason for your records to be flagged, or if there are record entries that are not yours, make an appointment with the Risk Manager at Kaiser. At that meeting discuss the errors in your record that led HPD and/or Kaiser to "flag" your records. Suggest that Kaiser's error (assuming that is the case) has caused you much difficulty, requiring you to take time off work and spend your money to rectify the problem. Further suggest that the difficulties that Kaiser made affect your ability to exercise a core, fundamental right and that you are considering a 1983 Civil Rights case against them. They will be most interested in avoiding litigation and you can use that to your advantage in getting them to fix whatever problems with your medical records that resulted in this issue.

Scar16,

try check this topic..

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=18112.new#new

If SB462 passes into law, does this mean HPD will confiscate all your existing firearms if you have been falsely flagged by Kaiser?  This is getting scary out of hand!

If SB462 passes into law, does this mean HPD will confiscate all your existing firearms if you have been falsely flagged by Kaiser?  This is getting scary out of hand!

I believe they can unless you get cleared. So I seen a psychologist yesterday, sat there for about 30-45 min while he asked me a lot of qs. After the session he said he'd write the letter for me indicating all the words hpd wants written down on paper (as shown in the pic I attached above posts) which I think is unjust too because I never had anything the paper lists in the first place, but for me to beable to register my firearm it needs those words. Dammed if you do or don't.
so now I'm going to kaiser and gonna see to it they attach that letter to my file and records. Again this process is messed up and making it super difficult for everyone, bottom line is of anyone sees a a counselor for any reason even if it has nothing to do with mental health you may get flagged as I did in my case. If I have to go through this shit everytime I want to buy something new, I'll just get everything all at once and do it once a yr or every two. Plain ridiculous.

I recall Mac stating on one of his YouTube vids. Registration eventually results in confiscation....

It will just keep going until someone ponies up the money to sue these idiots.  It's getting pretty crazy.

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