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Shipping ammo to Hawaii from the Mainland?
« on: December 03, 2009, 02:52:25 PM »
Bushmasta55 asked about shipping ammo in from the mainland in another post and I just wanted to follow up on that.

I am aware that shipping ammo needs to be done via freight, UPS, or FedEx in properly marked (ORM-D) packaging. As such, and with such a heavy box, shipping costs are usually prohibitive to getting ammo shipped here.

Has anyone dealt with getting ammo shipped in via freight and can chime in with their experience?
I am interested in knowing who provides good service, good costs, and how many cases would need to be shipped to even consider this.
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Re: Shipping ammo to Hawaii from the Mainland?
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2009, 12:55:31 PM »
I have been part of a group of people who ordered ammo or reloading supplies in bulk of a couple of occasions.  However, my direct involvement was limited to saying "10 cases, please" and handing over money.  Apparently, though, with a large enough order, you can have a container shipped on one of the local nautical shipping companies. 

I've also got a friend who owns a gun store, and he has offered to help me out with some exotic ammo that I can't find locally by letting me have the mainland company deliver it to his shipping company.  So far, I haven't taken him up on it, but it's the only way I'll ever gat ammo to feed my Steyr Manlicher 8x56R. 

The other thing I do not understand is how CMP can ship me 70 lbs of .30-06 FedEx overnight for under $30, while other companies charge $400 for the same service.
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Re: Shipping ammo to Hawaii from the Mainland?
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2009, 08:24:22 PM »
Mahalos for  the fallow up 2a.

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Re: Shipping ammo to Hawaii from the Mainland?
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2009, 10:37:03 PM »
What about magazines, I tried to order some mags and this company says that they can't ship here.
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Re: Shipping ammo to Hawaii from the Mainland?
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2009, 08:00:22 AM »
A lot of companies have problems sending high-cap standard capacity rifle magazines but other companies will send them. It is one of those grey area laws that some companies don't want to deal with.

low-cap magazines shouldn't be a problem with anyone. But, then again, sales and shipping are all up to the individual companies.
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Re: Shipping ammo to Hawaii from the Mainland?
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2009, 09:07:20 AM »
It's the Hawaii legal magazine.
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Re: Shipping ammo to Hawaii from the Mainland?
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2009, 09:30:19 AM »
A lot of companies have problems sending high-cap rifle magazines but other companies will send them. It is one of those grey area laws that some companies don't want to deal with.

low-cap magazines shouldn't be a problem with anyone. But, then again, sales and shipping are all up to the individual companies.

This is a pet peeve of  mine... but we are not discussing high capacity magazines.  What's banned here in Hawaii are standard capacity magazines.  "Hi-Cap" is as valid a term as "Assault Weapon."  If people stopped mislabeling things, a lot of the resistance we face would evaporate. 

Any reasonable person who is merely ignorant of the facts will hear someone bitching about "I want high capacity magazines for assault weapons!" and think, "you know, that makes sense.  No one needs an assault weapon, much less a high capacity magazine fir it."  Hell, my MOM has told me about how we need to ban all these "assault weapons," and she grew up with firearms!  Keeps many in her house on display!

However, if the person had said "I want some standard capacity magazines for my rifle," there's no controversy.  It becomes a reasonable request.

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Re: Shipping ammo to Hawaii from the Mainland?
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2009, 09:40:11 AM »
My bad. I've corrected my original post :)
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Re: Shipping ammo to Hawaii from the Mainland?
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2009, 10:23:54 PM »
What about magazines, I tried to order some mags and this company says that they can't ship here.

You can always have them shipped to an in-law or friend on the mainland, then have them flat rate the mags over here.  I usually have them take the mags apart so they are considered "parts kit"

Hopefully this site grows and grows, then we can all get together for a huge group buy!

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Re: Shipping ammo to Hawaii from the Mainland?
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2010, 01:40:46 PM »
sorry I just wanted to revive this thread.  So does anyone buy ammo online?  Can it be done or do you have to get a FFL to do it for you?  I'm looking at some deals online and they are awesome.

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http://www.centerfiresystems.com/AM762103.aspx


Sheez!  Ammo is a lot cheaper on the mainland! Comon guys, what's the scoop?  Do we have to settle for local gun shop prices? 

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Re: Shipping ammo to Hawaii from the Mainland?
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2010, 03:42:43 PM »
Prices here make me want to get my own FFL.  It's only a few hundred  bucks the first time. Just the issue of BATF having rights to my home worries me.  Then again I could probably find some sort of storefront to do it in.
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Re: Shipping ammo to Hawaii from the Mainland?
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2010, 07:38:50 PM »
So does anyone buy ammo online?  Can it be done or do you have to get a FFL to do it for you? 

I do buy ammo online from the CMP.  I can get .30-06, shipped, for $0.64/round.  They also sell .30 Carbine and .22 ammo, but the prices end up being break-even with local deals.

You do not need an FFL.  However, aside from CMP, what you will find is that it is not a cost-effective way to go.  The shipping costs of getting hazardous goods overnighted to you (and it is required by law to be overnighted) more than offset the savings you are looking at.  There are only 3 ways to actually save money shipping ammo here:

1.  Join the CMP and order M2 ball.

2.  Make friends with the owner of a gun store who will let you add items to his bulk shipments.

3.  Place a large enough order that it has to be put on a container ship.

Shotgun News was running an add from a bulk distributor that sold by the pallet and used reasonable freight rates.  I looked long and hard at that, and tried to imagine fronting $15,000 then showing up at the gun show with a pallet of .223 or .308 and trying to break even.  Did not seem like the kind of gamble I was willing to take.
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Re: Shipping ammo to Hawaii from the Mainland?
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2010, 07:43:21 PM »
hmmm ok so that's why the higher prices, cause of shipping restrictions.  Well, maybe when this forum gets large enough, we can get some group buys going! :geekdanc:

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Re: Shipping ammo to Hawaii from the Mainland?
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2013, 11:58:01 PM »
hmmm ok so that's why the higher prices, cause of shipping restrictions.  Well, maybe when this forum gets large enough, we can get some group buys going! :geekdanc:

count me in for the next group buy.

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Re: Shipping ammo to Hawaii from the Mainland?
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2013, 12:57:46 AM »
count me in for the next group buy.
I don't think the first one happened yet.

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« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2013, 03:37:18 AM »
I don't think the first one happened yet.

We do group buys all the time.

They're called "buy ammo from OGC"  :thumbsup:
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Re: Shipping ammo to Hawaii from the Mainland?
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2013, 01:39:41 AM »
count me in for the next group buy.

Umm, I'm not sure how many here will be going in on a bulk purchase of AirSoft pellets! 

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Re: Shipping ammo to Hawaii from the Mainland?
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2013, 06:33:07 AM »
I have heard of people leagally bringing ammo on an airline.
There are some restrictions like.

-limited to 10 pounds (not sure if thats gross weight or N.E.W.)
-Has to be in the original manufacture boxes
-Has to be in a lock, and approved, case.

I do not know the full detail, but I know it has been done :thumbsup:

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Re: Shipping ammo to Hawaii from the Mainland?
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2013, 06:37:32 AM »
We used to do that every time we went to Vegas.  Buy a case and split it up into 4 bags and everyone would check one in.

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Re: Shipping ammo to Hawaii from the Mainland?
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2013, 06:43:23 AM »
Thats another thing. I would call the airline to verify they will accept the ammo, and get more details of course.

Make sure you declare you have the ammo upon check in.
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