Xtreme Bullets .308 (Read 5995 times)

spicynoodle_1

Xtreme Bullets .308
« on: February 14, 2015, 01:54:38 PM »
Has anyone tried reloading .308 with bullets from Xtreme Bullets. I read somewhere on other forums that you have to keep fps down to 1500. Just wanted to know why and if anyone has had any experience with this caliber from them. I use the 9mm and .223 from them and was thinking of starting to reload .308. Wanted to find out before I purchase. Thanks...

B.A. Baracus

Re: Xtreme Bullets .308
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2015, 02:58:36 PM »
I've used them in 300blk. But the problem with them is that if you use them in a semi, the low FPS might not cycle the action. Higher FPS you're more likely to lead out your barrel.
But if you have a bolt gun you can shoot them no problem! Just my opinion!

Inspector

Re: Xtreme Bullets .308
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2015, 03:34:29 PM »
Has anyone tried reloading .308 with bullets from Xtreme Bullets. I read somewhere on other forums that you have to keep fps down to 1500. Just wanted to know why and if anyone has had any experience with this caliber from them. I use the 9mm and .223 from them and was thinking of starting to reload .308. Wanted to find out before I purchase. Thanks...
I don't have any personal experience with this brand or type of bullet. I have also read the same thing you have regarding this type of bullet. Xtreme bullets are copper plated rather than being jacketed. It is thought that the plating is so thin that when you push them above 1500 FPS then you may experience leading in your barrel. Also, I have read that there is a possibility of the plating separating from the lead core at higher velocities. Jacketed bullets, on the other hand, are thought to have a thicker copper jacket that also may not separate from the lead core when pushed to velocities above 1500 FPS. Since I don't have any personal experience with copper plated bullets I cannot tell you if this is true or not. So my question to you is if you are pushing your .223 copper plated Xtreme bullets to over 1500 FPS? Because .223 usually are loaded to 2500 FPS and above. Are you having any copper plating separation or leading issues in your rifle? Theoretically, you should have the same issues with the .223 as you would with the .308. So if you are not having any issues with the .223 at standard velocities then why not try them for your .308?

I do have a lot of experience with shooting and loading straight hard cast bullets in some of my rifles up to 2200-2300 FPS. These hard cast bullets also have a copper gas check. Using this type of bullet I have not had any leading issues and depending on the rifle I get excellent accuracy. Because most of my rifles are bolt actions I also try to load with a reduced load so I can safely shoot lead bullets at lower pressures/velocities. This saves barrels and it saves money on bullets and powder. Plus my brass seldom needs to be trimmed when I shoot reduced loads.

I am currently experimenting with shooting hard cast lead in my 300 Blackout at standard velocities so my AR will cycle.
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talula

Re: Xtreme Bullets .308
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2015, 04:16:44 PM »
The 223 they offer are FMJ and works well. The 308 on the other hand are copper plated and are fine in reduce loads in a bolt action. I attempted to create a load for 300 blackout shot out of a ar pistol. Two problems. First it can't cycle consistently. Tried everything spring, buffer, gas port. still no consistent results. not enough energy to cycle the bolt. Second the tip is cut short and at a hard angle that it jams on the feed ramp even  after opening it up and polishing it. Out of a 308 I wouldent think about it.
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spicynoodle_1

Re: Xtreme Bullets .308
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2015, 05:42:44 PM »
I don't have any personal experience with this brand or type of bullet. I have also read the same thing you have regarding this type of bullet. Xtreme bullets are copper plated rather than being jacketed. It is thought that the plating is so thin that when you push them above 1500 FPS then you may experience leading in your barrel. Also, I have read that there is a possibility of the plating separating from the lead core at higher velocities. Jacketed bullets, on the other hand, are thought to have a thicker copper jacket that also may not separate from the lead core when pushed to velocities above 1500 FPS. Since I don't have any personal experience with copper plated bullets I cannot tell you if this is true or not. So my question to you is if you are pushing your .223 copper plated Xtreme bullets to over 1500 FPS? Because .223 usually are loaded to 2500 FPS and above. Are you having any copper plating separation or leading issues in your rifle? Theoretically, you should have the same issues with the .223 as you would with the .308. So if you are not having any issues with the .223 at standard velocities then why not try them for your .308?

I do have a lot of experience with shooting and loading straight hard cast bullets in some of my rifles up to 2200-2300 FPS. These hard cast bullets also have a copper gas check. Using this type of bullet I have not had any leading issues and depending on the rifle I get excellent accuracy. Because most of my rifles are bolt actions I also try to load with a reduced load so I can safely shoot lead bullets at lower pressures/velocities. This saves barrels and it saves money on bullets and powder. Plus my brass seldom needs to be trimmed when I shoot reduced loads.

I am currently experimenting with shooting hard cast lead in my 300 Blackout at standard velocities so my AR will cycle.

Thanks for the input, guys. Inspector, my 223 and 9mm loads are normal haven't had any problems with leading using the .223 or 9mm. Might try the 308 in a 300 blk. Seems thats what people have been doing with them. Looks like gotta look somewhere else for the .308 then. Thanks again guys. I always get great info here...

Inspector

Re: Xtreme Bullets .308
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2015, 05:19:11 PM »
Thanks for the input, guys. Inspector, my 223 and 9mm loads are normal haven't had any problems with leading using the .223 or 9mm. Might try the 308 in a 300 blk. Seems thats what people have been doing with them. Looks like gotta look somewhere else for the .308 then. Thanks again guys. I always get great info here...
I would say then that the 308's are probably worth a try based on your experience with the 223. I find buying my jacketed bullets from Powder Valley with flat rate shipping is about the cheapest route without shopping around for hours on the Internet. Also, I don't order from them unless I have at least 500-1000 round order. If I am looking for just a box of 100 I run over to WGS and pay the high prices becausde they almost always have what I am looking for.
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oldfart

Re: Xtreme Bullets .308
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2015, 08:39:05 PM »
The 223 bullets from xtreme are conventional jacketed bullets, NOT plated.

The 308 bullets from xtreme are plated. I have not used either of them.

Looking at the picture, it looks like the 308 bullet would be more suited for something like 30 30.
Because it has a big flat point good for lever guns.
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Inspector

Re: Xtreme Bullets .308
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2015, 09:16:12 PM »
The 223 bullets from xtreme are conventional jacketed bullets, NOT plated.

The 308 bullets from xtreme are plated. I have not used either of them.

Looking at the picture, it looks like the 308 bullet would be more suited for something like 30 30.
Because it has a big flat point good for lever guns.
Thanks for clearing that up OF. I am not familiar with the Xtreme products so I thought they were all plated.
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