Glock 17 and/or 19.  Many aftermarket accessories already available.  Replacement mags are usually around $25.

H&K VP9

Has Hickok45 ever not liked something

H&K VP9

Has Hickok45 ever not liked something

He did a follow-up comparison between the KSG and UTAS shotguns, and gave the advantage to the KSG.  Not really a negative review, but he did give an honest opinion of which he liked better.

I think the guns he gives reviews on are those he and his viewers find attractive for one reason or another -- mainly the most popular ones.  Given that, he rarely shoots crappy guns in his reviews -- thus, not many negative criticisms.

I personally have no experience with this firearm. Putting it out there because everyone is mentioning the vp9. Dont get me wrong i have a vp9 also just havent shot it alot. But when u go online and search about vp9 stuff the other pistol that comes up is the walther ppq which personally idk if they have one that has a 10rd mag. Last time i was looking into the ppq i read that the magnum research baby eagle mags fit in the ppq, but then there were two runs of the pistol made. One with the european mag release like the hk vp9 then they made a run that has a traditional. So wasnt sure which model would take the baby eagle mags.  But last time i was at security equipment i seen a bunch of walther pistols. And for shot show 2015 they did a top 5 guns to buy under $500 bucks and the walther ccp was in there. Striker fired. But there is a safety. Just my long two cents. lol.

Just looked online they now offer the ppq with 10rd mags in 9mm and 40s&w

since this is an HK love fest right now, i'll just leave this here...


http://monsterhunternation.com/2007/10/09/hk-because-you-suck-and-we-hate-you/


for the record, i dont hate HK.  but i just think the mystique around them is more marketing than anything.  its like BMW's.  are they good cars?   sure.  but are they special like all the bimmer fanatics would have you believe?  nah.  its just a quality gun, and you can get those from a lot of different people to suit your needs, and your hand.


i will say that more companies need to emulate HK's mag releases (though im not sure, but maybe walther did it first?)  those are really nice and make it easy on small hands.

i just think the mystique around them is more marketing than anything.

Oh yeah, how many Pistols you know of can operate like this?!?!?!



That just shows how good they are...

Oh yeah, how many Pistols you know of can operate like this?!?!?!



That just shows how good they are...

Lol! That's hilarious! Only HK's run that well.

Oh yeah, how many Pistols you know of can operate like this?!?!?!



That just shows how good they are...

well, the Boberg pistols are pretty close 

CZ,  Double/Single action.  Grip size is great for smaller hand size. Comes in all flavors from steel frame to aluminum alloy, to plastic.  Traditional style to railed.  Great gun that is overlooked by many.

Many CZ fans out there but the slide inside the frame made me think twice.
Not much to grip for racking.
Never shot one but checked one at OGC during sale.

Fits really nice in the hand though.

I still say first handgun go Glock, M&P or XD. Then get as exotic as you like.

On the other hand Walther PPQ is on my list and the HK VP 9 has the wings on the back so it can be racked easily as well as is reportedly a nice shooter.

Tough choice. 

Well coconut kid is being a great guy and letting me get some trigger time with the vp9 just to see what all the whoop is about. Hk in my opinion makes rifles that are just too damned beefy and heavy that I don't care for much I'm open to seeing how their pistols are. I went into a gunshop and picked up my scar 17, and looked at hk's .308 rifle and was immediately grateful if bought the scar lol

can't go wrong with a Glock, XD, or M&P.  whichever feels best in your hand.
VP9 is a good choice too.
choice is too tough to make just one choice.
better start looking for your second handgun already.   
revolver!   

can't go wrong with a Glock, XD, or M&P.  whichever feels best in your hand.
VP9 is a good choice too.
choice is too tough to make just one choice.
better start looking for your second handgun already.   
revolver!   

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Yeah I somewhat agree.
Even though the vp9 felt better in my hand, I would pick a glock just because of the mind boggling amount of parts and accessories that is out there.
Also there is a large pool of experienced owners that seem more than happy to share their experiences with you.
The vp9 is still a relatively new pistol. I don't want to be the guy that discovers that the slide cracks in half after 2000 rnds....if you know what I mean.

There is a lot of good things about a revolver too. I favor a sw or ruger da wheelgun.
It's the best firearm for a newbee just learning pistol marksmanship.

Many CZ fans out there but the slide inside the frame made me think twice.
Not much to grip for racking.
Never shot one but checked one at OGC during sale.

Fits really nice in the hand though.

I still say first handgun go Glock, M&P or XD. Then get as exotic as you like.

On the other hand Walther PPQ is on my list and the HK VP 9 has the wings on the back so it can be racked easily as well as is reportedly a nice shooter.

Tough choice. 

Never had a problem racking the slide. Slingshot method with hand over the top.  If the grip slips the rear sight has enough bulk.  What I really like about CZs are the grip angle and size, as mentioned,  and the low bore axis which really keeps muzzle flip under control.  It pretty much drops right back on target. 

Trigger on the factory pistols are somewhat heavy though, however there are spring kits to reduce it some, and also full on action jobs if you so wish.  The factory pistol I have has a spring kit installed, and with normal practice and rounds downrange really smoothed it out.

So listening to other people's advice I looked up the hk vp9, and it does seem like a very nice pistol, I especially liked that you could send the slide home just by inserting the magazine with a little bit of man, and the charging ears are a nice feature as well. I bought ten of fn's proprietary scar 17 mags, and am over paying those ridiculous prices for magazines but if I shoot it, and really do like it I might just pull the trigger on one... Pun intended thanks for all the input yall !

Never had a problem racking the slide. Slingshot method with hand over the top.  If the grip slips the rear sight has enough bulk.  What I really like about CZs are the grip angle and size, as mentioned,  and the low bore axis which really keeps muzzle flip under control.  It pretty much drops right back on target. 

Trigger on the factory pistols are somewhat heavy though, however there are spring kits to reduce it some, and also full on action jobs if you so wish.  The factory pistol I have has a spring kit installed, and with normal practice and rounds downrange really smoothed it out.

Agreed on racking.  The serrations are aggressive enough that ive never had a problem even when i use too much clp.

So listening to other people's advice I looked up the hk vp9, and it does seem like a very nice pistol, I especially liked that you could send the slide home just by inserting the magazine with a little bit of man, and the charging ears are a nice feature as well. I bought ten of fn's proprietary scar 17 mags, and am over paying those ridiculous prices for magazines but if I shoot it, and really do like it I might just pull the trigger on one... Pun intended thanks for all the input yall !

well, the only pistol youll get cheap mags for is the glock 17.  Everything else is proprietary pretty much and never got the magpul treatment.

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Looking for a handgun purposed for HD/SD?

In my opinion, look for the most reliable handgun (semi or revolver) that best fits your own physiology, shooting style and philosophy, and your wallet.

I would recommend taking people up on their offers to let you try their equipment, before buying.

Regardless of whether semi or revolver, for a HD/SD handgun, I would not personally get a super expensive, uber-modified handgun, emblazoned with skulls, Punisher logo, and laser engravings that read, "Kill em all, let God sort 'em out," or similar. Save that shit for your "Show Gun." 

Also, I would personally not get a Glock 23, with the intention of buying/using an aftermarket 9mm barrel and mags. Despite the practicality of having a single handgun with .40 and 9mm capability, I don't think I'd really use the capabilities enough to justify the cost of the barrel and mags. Again, just me.

And, after purchasing your handgun, go out and practice with it. Then practice some more. Then practice some more.

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100% agree
Keep it simple and close to stock condition.
Then practice a lot. Using a pistol for defense is one of the hardest things you will ever do..