Brushes, jags, mops and loops (Read 7902 times)

Mr. Farknocker

Brushes, jags, mops and loops
« on: April 14, 2015, 02:21:10 PM »
I've seen brass brushes, stainless brushes, spiral wire brushes, brass jags and loops and cotton bore mops. I've only used the brass brushes and jags and on rare occasion, a loop when i don't have the proper jag. I also use a mop with tap water when cleaning out my Mosin. While I have an idea of how the other cleaning implements are supposed to be used it's just that: an idea. Aside from brass brushes and jags, what do you use for bore cleaning and when is it appropriate to use the other devices?

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Re: Brushes, jags, mops and loops
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2015, 03:24:37 PM »
So many cleaning devices.  I just wanted to add to beware when using the Remington bore squeegees.  Was doing the shotgun and when that thing comes out the muzzle end wet it sprays 360 degrees!  Like 5 times or however many squeegee blades the plug has!  Wasn't ready for that.
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Re: Brushes, jags, mops and loops
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2015, 03:26:08 PM »
I've seen brass brushes, stainless brushes, spiral wire brushes, brass jags and loops and cotton bore mops. I've only used the brass brushes and jags and on rare occasion, a loop when i don't have the proper jag. I also use a mop with tap water when cleaning out my Mosin. While I have an idea of how the other cleaning implements are supposed to be used it's just that: an idea. Aside from brass brushes and jags, what do you use for bore cleaning and when is it appropriate to use the other devices?

Hoppe's BoreSnake.  Really reduces the number of patches needed and time spent.

I recommend the original, not the Viper.  Viper is more money, and doesn't seem to do as good a job.

Not only does it do a good job, but the weighted string can travel breech-to-muzzle as you should. 

I've taken a snake and a travel size Ballistol to the range to do a quick cleaning if I don't know how long it'll be before I have time to do a proper cleaning.

I use a soft brush, some disk detergent and warm water to clean the BoreSnake.  Trying to figure out how to wash it in a clothes washer is a pain.  The embedded wire brush snags on everything.  Tried washing it inside a sock, but the sock material got all tangled in the brush.
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Re: Brushes, jags, mops and loops
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2015, 04:17:31 PM »
Hoppe's BoreSnake.  Really reduces the number of patches needed and time spent.

I recommend the original, not the Viper.  Viper is more money, and doesn't seem to do as good a job.

Not only does it do a good job, but the weighted string can travel breech-to-muzzle as you should. 

I've taken a snake and a travel size Ballistol to the range to do a quick cleaning if I don't know how long it'll be before I have time to do a proper cleaning.

I use a soft brush, some disk detergent and warm water to clean the BoreSnake.  Trying to figure out how to wash it in a clothes washer is a pain.  The embedded wire brush snags on everything.  Tried washing it inside a sock, but the sock material got all tangled in the brush.

ive read somewhere to use an old pillow case and that works great  :thumbsup:

i have a boresnake for every caliber i own and were my fave until the otis ripcord came out. even without bristles it cleans so well in just one pass with mpro7 cleaner its crazy. its nomex so you can pull it through a piping hot barrel if you could manage to do so without burning yourself. i think the best part about the ripcord is they are cheaper and have the threaded end as an option to add a mop or brush for more aggressive cleaning. only con is its stiffer than a borsnake and i cant wind it up and stuff it inside of an ar-15 grip storage.

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Re: Brushes, jags, mops and loops
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2015, 04:55:47 PM »
I've always had an interest in bore snakes but something about running a cleaning implement repeatedly through the bore without cleaning the cleaning implement itself rubs (pun intended) me the wrong way. Sort of reminds me of using the same patch repeatedly.  I'm sure my concern is overblown but still.....

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Re: Brushes, jags, mops and loops
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2015, 06:06:30 PM »
I've always had an interest in bore snakes but something about running a cleaning implement repeatedly through the bore without cleaning the cleaning implement itself rubs (pun intended) me the wrong way. Sort of reminds me of using the same patch repeatedly.  I'm sure my concern is overblown but still.....

boresnake is for quick clean passes.  won't remove leading or heavy build ups that will require chemicals and heavier duty bristles.  these tornado brushes have been around for awhile and people might freak what comes out even with regular bore snake usage.  I did at least :)  only used this on shotgun so far though the rest have been standard cleaning rod or bore snakes.

 
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Re: Brushes, jags, mops and loops
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2015, 06:09:09 PM »
I've always had an interest in bore snakes but something about running a cleaning implement repeatedly through the bore without cleaning the cleaning implement itself rubs (pun intended) me the wrong way. Sort of reminds me of using the same patch repeatedly.  I'm sure my concern is overblown but still.....

The BoreSnake is much longer than any patch.  The material you clean out of the barrel is distributed over a really large surface area.  Plus, the snake is woven rather loosely, making pockets for the material to be swept into away from the barrel.

I only run the snake through a barrel 5 times or less, about the same amount of runs as a brass or nylon brush.
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Re: Brushes, jags, mops and loops
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2015, 08:27:02 PM »
Guess I am old fashion. I use brass jags, brushes and loops/patches with my carbon fiber rods. I use Hoppes #9 and  Breakfree CLP. I have tried M7 with great results. It is quite pricey though. At the range if I decide to clean I use Balistol and bore snakes for non black powder guns. For black powder I remove the stock and run the gun/barrel under the water spigot and then run dry patches thru it before I go home. Then I use hot soapy water or Simple Green if I need to do more cleaning. Then Balistol as a CLP. No rust forms on my guns doing this.
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Re: Brushes, jags, mops and loops
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2015, 01:36:55 AM »
Guess I am old fashion. I use brass jags, brushes and loops/patches with my carbon fiber rods. I use Hoppes #9 and  Breakfree CLP. I have tried M7 with great results. It is quite pricey though. At the range if I decide to clean I use Balistol and bore snakes for non black powder guns. For black powder I remove the stock and run the gun/barrel under the water spigot and then run dry patches thru it before I go home. Then I use hot soapy water or Simple Green if I need to do more cleaning. Then Balistol as a CLP. No rust forms on my guns doing this.

Who has Ballistol now?  Maybe try Mobil 1 synthetic for lube :) 

>>>edit - wanted to update this post to clear up possible carcinogenic ingredients. 

Older formulations of Hoppes #9 contained amounts of benzene but have since been removed. 

Here is the MSDS showing no carcinogen hazard:

http://www.hoppes.com/Hoppes/media/Files/MSDS/Hoppes9/msds-no9gunborecleaner.pdf


and here is the MSDS on CLP spray, also no carcinogen hazard
http://www.sfm.state.or.us/CR2K_SubDB/MSDS/CLP_LUBRICANT_BREAK_FREE.PDF


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Re: Brushes, jags, mops and loops
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2015, 08:23:40 AM »
+1 for original bore snake

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Re: Brushes, jags, mops and loops
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2015, 06:43:25 PM »
What about mops? Anybody use them? I can't see using them for anything except washing out the bore with water or cleaning fluid like I do with my Mosin after a day of shooting corrosive ammo or for applying generous amounts of oil or solvent for either cleaning or storage.

And just what exactly is this brush supposed to do?

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Re: Brushes, jags, mops and loops
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2015, 12:15:28 AM »
Farknocker that is the most aggressive bore brush / scraper on the market.   Pulling it through it almost sounds like new machining going on but does not harm the barrel.  Breaks up all the crud!


chuck it up in a drill and it froths cream for your coffee too lol  :)
maybe get a separate one for that though haha
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Re: Brushes, jags, mops and loops
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2015, 02:44:11 AM »
Check this vid out, pretty interesting results
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