Anyone here familiar with the Smith & Wesson Model 547 9mm revolver? (Read 11066 times)

dogman

I was introduced to one at SEC. Did some Google-ing and was pretty intrigued. Does anyone here own and shoot one?
« Last Edit: May 05, 2015, 08:24:38 PM by dogman »

jc2721

I saw that same revolver at SEC.  It was priced at the BB value for one in 100% condition.  Fire it once and condition drops dramatically--the BB shows the value of one in 98% condition to be one third less than the 100% value.  Similarly, dry fire it too much, cycle it too much or just scratch it and the value drops dramatically. 

If I recall correctly, it had the 2 piece blue box with the VPI paper and brochure.  I don't recall if it had the accessories/tools in the plastic bag--if it did, don't open the bag.  The box, papers and tools add to the piece's overall value.

I think the revolver was designed by S&W primarily for a foreign police market in the early 80's--it was discontinued in '85 because no one was buying them here in the US--everyone was buying 9mm semi-autos. 

I believe S&W holds (or held) a patent on the revolver's extractor system that allowed the shooter to forgo moon clips--you could just drop in rounds and the special spring-loaded extractors would eject the empties.  I think the fact that S&W doesn't use the system on its' .45 and 9mm revolvers today says a lot about the development and use of moon clips over the past 30 years.

It wasn't in the display case today, did you buy it?  If so, you've got a nice collectable piece.  If you want it to hold its' value, don't shoot it and/or don't cycle it too much.  That ring around the cylinder is one of the main condition issues that can drive a piece's value down.



dogman

Thanks for your input jc. The condition is definitely not 100%, unfortunately there is a blemish on the barrel, possibly a spec of rust forming under the bluing causing discoloration. It's funny how a gun I never knew existed has me so interested. I recently acquired a Model 10 in excellent condition, my first blue revolver, put a hundred rounds through it a couple of weeks ago and love it. I now have a fascination for blue revolvers, too bad not too many available out there.   

Inspector

I was introduced to one at SEC. Did some Google-ing and was pretty intrigued. Does anyone here own and shoot one?
I own one. I am sort of intrigued with 9mm revolvers. Mine is no where near 100%. It is a very nice shooter. With the right ammo it is quite accurate in my shaky hands with my old eyes. I shoot it regularly and have tried numerous handloads, commercial loads and military rounds through it. I don't know how many rounds had been through it before I got it but I do know it was shot a lot. The person who owned it before me mounted a red dot sight on it. I took it off as soon as I brought it home. And they rarely cleaned it if ever. It needed a lot of TLC when I got it. Now it is in my regular rotation of handguns when I go to the pistol range. The lockup is still tight and the trigger is quite nice.

If you can pick it up at the right price it is worth the money IMHO. Even though the 9mm round was not designed for revolver use the extraction system makes it a pleasure to shoot in the same vane as say a 32 or 38. Did you have any other questions about it? I posted a pic of it in the revolver show and tell thread.
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dogman

Thanks for sharing, Inspector. Funny thing, after learning of this revolver I remembered your post with pics of your revolvers so I went back to look it up thinking if anyone has a Model 547 it would  be Inspector.

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Inspector

Thanks for sharing, Inspector. Funny thing, after learning of this revolver I remembered your post with pics of your revolvers so I went back to look it up thinking if anyone has a Model 547 it would  be Inspector.
I was an early adoptor/supporter of the 9mm cartridge when it started gaining popularity here in the states. Very few, if any, of the US made pistols could reliably chamber and fire and eject anything other than FMJ/ball ammo. But in the back of my mind I always felt the 9mm had a lot of potential especially if I could find a gun that could reliably chamber/fire/eject hollwpoints. I found an interesting semi auto that reliably fed all my hollowpoint handloads. This is one gun I wish I had never gotten rid of. It was the MAB P-15 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAB_PA-15_pistol. It has a rotating barrel that makes a quarter of a turn while the slide moves back. It is an all steel heavy gun. It was pretty darn accurate with a decent trigger. I traded it in and purchased my Glock 17 Gen 2. It wasn't too long that Ruger started chambering some of their revolvers in 9mm. I bought my Ruger Speed Six in 9mm and felt like it was the best combination of revolver and cartridge. When I discovered the 547 I couldn't afford a new one but I obtained the one I have now used. And now Charter Arms makes a nice 9mm revolver as well as S&W Performance Shop puts out two different models.

Some people love their Colt SAA's. I can't afford to be a collector. I love all revolvers, especially 357 Magnum's. But there is something about a 9mm revolver that just piques my interest. Now if I could just get some manufacturer to start making 9mm rimmed brass (AKA 45 Rimmed) that I could shoot in my revolvers that normally require moon clips I would probably fire my 9mm revolvers even more. When I finish with my current project I am going to try and cut down some 38 Special cases, resize them and see if they may work.
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Barrett808

I was an early adoptor/supporter of the 9mm cartridge when it started gaining popularity here in the states. Very few, if any, of the US made pistols could reliably chamber and fire and eject anything other than FMJ/ball ammo. But in the back of my mind I always felt the 9mm had a lot of potential especially if I could find a gun that could reliably chamber/fire/eject hollwpoints. I found an interesting semi auto that reliably fed all my hollowpoint handloads. This is one gun I wish I had never gotten rid of. It was the MAB P-15 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAB_PA-15_pistol. It has a rotating barrel that makes a quarter of a turn while the slide moves back. It is an all steel heavy gun. It was pretty darn accurate with a decent trigger. I traded it in and purchased my Glock 17 Gen 2. It wasn't too long that Ruger started chambering some of their revolvers in 9mm. I bought my Ruger Speed Six in 9mm and felt like it was the best combination of revolver and cartridge. When I discovered the 547 I couldn't afford a new one but I obtained the one I have now used. And now Charter Arms makes a nice 9mm revolver as well as S&W Performance Shop puts out two different models.

Some people love their Colt SAA's. I can't afford to be a collector. I love all revolvers, especially 357 Magnum's. But there is something about a 9mm revolver that just piques my interest. Now if I could just get some manufacturer to start making 9mm rimmed brass (AKA 45 Rimmed) that I could shoot in my revolvers that normally require moon clips I would probably fire my 9mm revolvers even more. When I finish with my current project I am going to try and cut down some 38 Special cases, resize them and see if they may work.
Inspector nice 9mms. Love wheel guns too. Do you have a Ruger Blackhawk 357 with 9mm cylinder? Enjoy shooting my FA with 45ACP too. Real different and fun to shoot.

Inspector

Re: Anyone here familiar with the Smith & Wesson Model 547 9mm revolver?
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2015, 12:17:50 PM »
Inspector nice 9mms. Love wheel guns too. Do you have a Ruger Blackhawk 357 with 9mm cylinder? Enjoy shooting my FA with 45ACP too. Real different and fun to shoot.
Unfortunately, my funds are limited and I hate to part with any gun I own so I have to be very particular about what I buy. I have always wanted a BH with the 9mm cylinder. Though I have read quite a bit that because the barrel is cut .357 and 9mm shoots a .355 projectile that accuracy is not all that great. So of course I always felt I could load a 9mm case with a .356 or even a .357 bullet. It is always fun to try different things.  I had a chance recently to pick one up but I had another financial priority pop up at the last minute. Seems to happen a lot to me lately. Hopefully, some day another one will come along and I will have the funds to buy it. It is on my list of revolvers I want to own.
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Barrett808

Re: Anyone here familiar with the Smith & Wesson Model 547 9mm revolver?
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2015, 02:36:54 PM »
Yup Inspector think your idea of using a 356 or 357 bullet would help accuracy. Wanted to find out if 9mm revolvers with a lot of cylinder free bore before forcing cone would affect accuracy too.
Neat how manufacturers would offer different calibers i.e additional cylinder.
Got a Ruger single action six 22LR and 22 mag combo real accurate little SA.
 :stopjack:
Would like to hear about 9mm accuracy and if free bore
affects those revolvers too?
Mahalo
 :shaka:

Inspector

Re: Anyone here familiar with the Smith & Wesson Model 547 9mm revolver?
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2015, 03:06:45 PM »
Yup Inspector think your idea of using a 356 or 357 bullet would help accuracy. Wanted to find out if 9mm revolvers with a lot of cylinder free bore before forcing cone would affect accuracy too.
Neat how manufacturers would offer different calibers i.e additional cylinder.
Got a Ruger single action six 22LR and 22 mag combo real accurate little SA.
 :stopjack:
Would like to hear about 9mm accuracy and if free bore
affects those revolvers too?
Mahalo
 :shaka:
So I can't answer your direct question. But I may be able to give you an idea. Just think of a 357 Magnum shooting 38 Specials. Similar free bore before forcing cone issue. Yet I can tell you from personal experience that there can be little to no difference in accuracy. Mostly the issue deals with the alignment of the cylinder with the forcing cone and the type of bullet and load you are shooting. Obviously misalignment is inversely reactive to accuracy. But shooting soft lead might have an adverse affect especially at higher velocities. Where shooting jacketed bullets or hard cast lead should probably have a lesser effect on accuracy. One of my future projects is testing my S&W Performance Center 627 using the same bullet and powder charge with the only difference being the 357 brass compared to the 38 Special Brass. I know there is going to be a slight velocity difference between the two due to the smaller chamber. I doubt there will be enough of a difference to make a huge difference in accuracy. I already have an accuracy load for this gun using a MG 125gr JHP bullet and 5.0gr of Titegroup with a CCI 500 Primer using a Starline 357 case. It moves at 38 +P velocities. BTW, I use 357 brass cases to reduce the free bore before forcing cone because I felt at one time it would make a huge difference. But after shooting some Commercial 38 Special Target loads through the same gun I see similar accuracy results. Now I am not so sure about the distance before forcing cone. But nothing beats actual testing. A company I used to work for had a saying: "One Test Equals A Thousand Expert Opinions".

I have an old High Standard High Sierra Model .22 Revolver. It has the .22 Magnum Cylinder as well. Like your Ruger it is quite accurate and a lot of fun to shoot (If you can find .22 Magnum ammo). I bought it in the early to mid 70's. It is still in great shape. BTW, High Standard revolvers are some of the best and least expensive revolvers on the market. Some day the collector market will catch on to them like they have the semi auto's and they will go up in price. But right now they are still pretty inexpensive. I posted a pic of it in the revolver show and tell as well.
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Inspector

Re: Anyone here familiar with the Smith & Wesson Model 547 9mm revolver?
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2015, 07:05:20 AM »
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oldfart

Re: Anyone here familiar with the Smith & Wesson Model 547 9mm revolver?
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2015, 07:38:11 AM »
Unfortunately, my funds are limited and I hate to part with any gun I own so I have to be very particular about what I buy. I have always wanted a BH with the 9mm cylinder. Though I have read quite a bit that because the barrel is cut .357 and 9mm shoots a .355 projectile that accuracy is not all that great. So of course I always felt I could load a 9mm case with a .356 or even a .357 bullet. It is always fun to try different things.  I had a chance recently to pick one up but I had another financial priority pop up at the last minute. Seems to happen a lot to me lately. Hopefully, some day another one will come along and I will have the funds to buy it. It is on my list of revolvers I want to own.
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I have some 9mm bullets made in 357 dia.
Started doing accuracy testing in the block17.
Wanna try some?
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Inspector

Re: Anyone here familiar with the Smith & Wesson Model 547 9mm revolver?
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2015, 07:58:58 AM »
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I have some 9mm bullets made in 357 dia.
Started doing accuracy testing in the block17.
Wanna try some?
Hey OF,

I would love to try some. How is your testing of them going? Have any results yet? Thanks!!!
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oldfart

Re: Anyone here familiar with the Smith & Wesson Model 547 9mm revolver?
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2015, 08:33:56 AM »
Hey OF,

I would love to try some. How is your testing of them going? Have any results yet? Thanks!!!
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Sure thing. I just got them and made 1 quick test to check for pressure. Accuracy test was inconclusive.
I'm thinking of doing a block17 accuracy project next. Btw the oversize 9mm bullets are xtreme 147rn.
I shot an action pistol match with them in the Glock, but for action shoots, it doesn't matter much what you use.
As long as the gun go bang every time. Drop by the house some time. See the pic.
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