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interesting read : FBI is on your cell phone. Do you care?
« on: September 20, 2011, 04:22:57 PM »
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More demanding rule-of-law requirements of government tracking of us are coming. Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., and Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, have introduced the truly patriotic Geolocation Privacy and Surveillance Act, supported by the ACLU, that "requires the government to show probable cause and get a warrant before acquiring the geolocational information of a U.S. person."

Heavies

Re: interesting read : FBI is on your cell phone. Do you care?
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2011, 05:19:39 AM »
With all those new Iphones and the like the GPS is scary.  I just realized that when I take pictures it is tagged with the location!  WOW. Imagine what kind of damage could be done if the 'wrong' people had access to these features!  It is not only big brother that I am worried about;  criminal hackers, big companies, dang near anyone, it seems, can know where you are.

Anyone know if you can turn these things on and off?

 :shake: I'm getting more and more paranoid! lol

Cougar8045

Re: interesting read : FBI is on your cell phone. Do you care?
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2011, 07:18:15 AM »
With all those new Iphones and the like the GPS is scary.  I just realized that when I take pictures it is tagged with the location!  WOW. Imagine what kind of damage could be done if the 'wrong' people had access to these features!  It is not only big brother that I am worried about;  criminal hackers, big companies, dang near anyone, it seems, can know where you are.

Anyone know if you can turn these things on and off?

 :shake: I'm getting more and more paranoid! lol
One of the many reasons I loathe Apple products: a while back there was a big scandal, because the phone stored GPS position data along with a timestamp, every couple of minutes-even if GPS was turned off!  Then, as if that weren't bad enough, when you sync'ed your iPhone, that file got copied over to your computer, literally building a minute-by-minute log of your precise location.  What was the file for?  No one knows, Apple tried to play it off like it was all a big misunderstanding. 

Tinfoil hat, get your ass on my head right now!!!   :shake:
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Re: interesting read : FBI is on your cell phone. Do you care?
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2011, 08:40:05 AM »
Tinfoil hat, get your ass on my head right now!!!   :shake:

I actually ran a search for a member called "tin foil hat". Stopped short of creating a new account and posting, "Yyyyessss?"  :rofl:
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Re: interesting read : FBI is on your cell phone. Do you care?
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2011, 12:22:53 AM »
Don't know about you guys, But, I have read the Terms of Acceptance/Conditions on a lot of Smart Phone Apps and PC downloads.

Did you now that by Accepting, you are opening up EVERYTHING on your PC and smart phone to a Third party to do things to
your PC And smart phone? 

Total access to your SD(or what ever media you use) card to do as they want.

You are giving permission to even make $ phone calls from your phone.  Lots of other stuff.

So far, I have Not been able to do anything about such "intrusions" on My Private property.

Let me know if you find a way to say Yes, But No.

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Re: interesting read : FBI is on your cell phone. Do you care?
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2011, 02:53:45 AM »
If you guys are worried about this kind of thing the Motorola F3 is just the phone for you :)

Actually GPS in a phone is pretty scary and the police can make your carrier give away your position. Even if you don't have GPS in your phone, your position can be triangulated from the tower positions.

So the morale to the story? Don't carry your phone with you to your illicit dealings :P
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Re: interesting read : FBI is on your cell phone. Do you care?
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2011, 04:21:56 AM »
People should've known from the start that GPS technology could easily be abused by "Big Brother".  I still drive a pre-1999 vehicle and use a map (and compass if necessary) to get where I need to go. Also when I'm not working, the battery comes out of my Blackberry and the SIM card gets moved to my very old Motorola V60. NO GPS for me.

FYI - Since mid 1999, most cars have the wiring (and sometime chips) are already installed. Just about everything "GPS Ready" is this way.



...laugh if you want, but ask yourself why these GPS chips are in everything when they could save money by leaving them out?
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Re: interesting read : FBI is on your cell phone. Do you care?
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2011, 05:02:29 AM »
Someone might abduct my ass :P with everything going on here. I at least want them to be able to GPS down my remains!
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Re: interesting read : FBI is on your cell phone. Do you care?
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2011, 09:09:08 AM »
I care a lot. I just read yesterday about the new policy for GM's onstar- where they INTEND to collect, manage, and sell personal data about their users and their habits- even if you try to turn it off!

Ugh, this is why I don't own a cell phone anymore, and I stick with old cars.


It is not only big brother that I am worried about;  criminal hackers, big companies, dang near anyone, it seems, can know where you are.

This. At this point I believe that everything I do that is electronic (Facebook, 2aHawaii, Email, Netflix, whatever) is the same as writing it down on a piece of paper, making a thousand copies, and stapling it to street corners and buildings all over the country.

Cougar8045

Re: interesting read : FBI is on your cell phone. Do you care?
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2011, 09:20:41 AM »
I care a lot. I just read yesterday about the new policy for GM's onstar- where they INTEND to collect, manage, and sell personal data about their users and their habits- even if you try to turn it off!

Ugh, this is why I don't own a cell phone anymore, and I stick with old cars.


It is not only big brother that I am worried about;  criminal hackers, big companies, dang near anyone, it seems, can know where you are.

This. At this point I believe that everything I do that is electronic (Facebook, 2aHawaii, Email, Netflix, whatever) is the same as writing it down on a piece of paper, making a thousand copies, and stapling it to street corners and buildings all over the country.
Almost enough to make me glad I drive a hammered-out 99 Isuzu Rodeo with 158k on the odometer, and power nothing.  Hell, I don't even have a functioning radio!  I better start calling it my off-grid car!
I'm just a fluffy white bunny rabbit who lost his way. 

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Echo5Alpha

Re: interesting read : FBI is on your cell phone. Do you care?
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2011, 08:26:38 PM »
I can't say what or who but let's just say I learned about this from a government employee of the elite stature. 

vooduchikn

Re: interesting read : FBI is on your cell phone. Do you care?
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2011, 09:46:40 PM »
T his has been around for a while...not new news. The bill requiring LEO to get a warrant is good news.
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