I'm new to firearms and newer to the site. I've been looking around and asking a lot of questions because I'm looking at getting an AR-15/M4 rifle and ran across Aero Precision's M4E1 (http://aeroprecisionusa.com/ap/m4e1-m5e1-carbine/). Has anyone tried know someone who's tried it or any of AP's other rifle parts?

I'm also wondering about the SIGM400 Enhanced that has the flip up front and rear sights. I got to fondle lots of rifles at SEC and it looked pretty good.

I'm new to firearms and newer to the site. I've been looking around and asking a lot of questions because I'm looking at getting an AR-15/M4 rifle and ran across Aero Precision's M4E1 (http://aeroprecisionusa.com/ap/m4e1-m5e1-carbine/). Has anyone tried know someone who's tried it or any of AP's other rifle parts?

I'm also wondering about the SIGM400 Enhanced that has the flip up front and rear sights. I got to fondle lots of rifles at SEC and it looked pretty good.

welcome to 2aHI.com, JKD

first tip-
click on this link:
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php
in the upper right hand corner, there's a search box
enter in "aero precision"
read some of the listed threads
then enter "sig m400"
and read some of those
then enter "build an ar"
and read some of those

second tip-
hawaii defense foundation holds range days the last saturday of every month
see here for more info:
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?board=44.0
details of this month's range day should be posted at 8 am this saturday
we usually have an "open shoot" session and a class session
people who come to these range days have an assortment of different setups and rifles, and you can meet a bunch of us and discuss what people are using and why

Has anyone tried know someone who's tried it or any of AP's other rifle parts?

Hey Jeet, Welcome to the site,
I have used AP's standard stripped lowers and uppers, including their blemished receivers and they are excellent.

Hey, welcome aboard.
When people tell me they want to buy something, I always ask them what their intentions are.
I ask because:
1. I am nosy
2. Sometimes people want stuff which is inappropriate for their intended purpose
3. You will get better quality advice from forum members

So....what do you want to do with this gun?

welcome to 2aHI.com, JKD
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Hey Mery, it's Kawika. I didn't see too much when I tried searching so I figured I'd ask and see.

Hey, welcome aboard.
When people tell me they want to buy something, I always ask them what their intentions are.
I ask because:
1. I am nosy
2. Sometimes people want stuff which is inappropriate for their intended purpose
3. You will get better quality advice from forum members

So....what do you want to do with this gun?

Mainly to learn how to handle/shoot rifles and probably get into accuracy/marksmanship. I did try a bunch at the shooting fair and the 223/556 guns felt pretty easy to handle. The 308/762 rifles were a little intimidating and kicked pretty hard.

Not really self defense right now since I live in an apartment. Even my handgun seems ill suited because of the possible ricochet and the noise in a small, enclosed space.

Mainly to learn how to handle/shoot rifles and probably get into accuracy/marksmanship. I did try a bunch at the shooting fair and the 223/556 guns felt pretty easy to handle. The 308/762 rifles were a little intimidating and kicked pretty hard.

Not really self defense right now since I live in an apartment. Even my handgun seems ill suited because of the possible ricochet and the noise in a small, enclosed space.

Accuracy/marksmanship..........Teichi and ren are heavy into this.  You may want to PM them about doing the CMP (Civilian Marksmanship Program).  Lot's of stuff to learn and ren can give you some good advice on how to set up an AR.

Hey Mery, it's Kawika. I didn't see too much when I tried searching so I figured I'd ask and see.

Aloha kawika
This is Steve

HI I would say since your new to firearms then go and buy a rifle instead of building one. Get used to how it operates and functions practice and get proficient with it. Then later you can build your self one (cus you know you cant just have one) once you know what and what you don't want on your platform. I have a Sig M400 and its a very good reliable firearm never had any issues or malfunction with it..

Aloha kawika
This is Steve

Oops! Sorry about that, I thought in an email she mentioned the user name. You actually did the HDF class for 2 of my coworkers, I had Mark. The 3 of us work with Mery.

Oops! Sorry about that, I thought in an email she mentioned the user name. You actually did the HDF class for 2 of my coworkers, I had Mark. The 3 of us work with Mery.

 

Aloha kawika
This is Steve

He called you Mery. 

That's your new nickname. 

HiState gives good advice.
And depending on your budget, consider the smith and Wesson sport.
Doesn't have the tacticool dust cover or forward assist but still a smith and Wesson.
(Though for range use I wouldn't recommend forcing a round into the chamber anyway)
Mine's reliable and accurate. 1 in 9 twist though.

Sig's probably way better though.
Is it DI or piston ?
Another consideration for a first rifle.

Mainly to learn how to handle/shoot rifles and probably get into accuracy/marksmanship. I did try a bunch at the shooting fair and the 223/556 guns felt pretty easy to handle. The 308/762 rifles were a little intimidating and kicked pretty hard.

Not really self defense right now since I live in an apartment. Even my handgun seems ill suited because of the possible ricochet and the noise in a small, enclosed space.

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I'm going to make some broad suggestions based on what you said.
You have a handgun.
If you can shoot a consistent cluster about the size of your hand at 25 yards, then you already have marksmanship skills that will carry over to a rifle.
Go for an ar15 type rifle.

If you can't shoot a nice cluster with your pistol, then go for a 22 rifle because you need more practice. Practice takes plenty more ammo.
22 is cheap practice.

Does that make sense?

Good comment oldF.

Another consideration is do you want semi-auto or is bolt Ok.

For less money a bolt gun will generally be more accurate.

Also check out the 243 round. Less kick but good accuracy out to distance in a bolt gun.

And everyone needs a 22 rifle.

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I'm going to make some broad suggestions based on what you said.
You have a handgun.
If you can shoot a consistent cluster about the size of your hand at 25 yards, then you already have marksmanship skills that will carry over to a rifle.
Go for an ar15 type rifle.

If you can't shoot a nice cluster with your pistol, then go for a 22 rifle because you need more practice. Practice takes plenty more ammo.
22 is cheap practice.

Does that make sense?

Thanks, it does. I'm still working in improving with my pistol. Lately I've just been practicing at 50 yds on the Koko Head steel silhouettes because I've been a little lazy to deal with the frame and paper targets.

I'm actually highly considering a 22 rifle because of the economics of ammo that would let me do high volume practicing.

Thanks, it does. I'm still working in improving with my pistol. Lately I've just been practicing at 50 yds on the Koko Head steel silhouettes because I've been a little lazy to deal with the frame and paper targets.

I'm actually highly considering a 22 rifle because of the economics of ammo that would let me do high volume practicing.

Well, yeah everyone should have at least one 22... and one AR-15.


If you buy a ruger 10/22, just don't get carried away accessorizing it as most accessories cost as much as the gun. ie $200 barrel, $200 trigger pack, $200 stock

Well, yeah everyone should have at least one 22... and one AR-15.


If you buy a ruger 10/22, just don't get carried away accessorizing it as most accessories cost as much as the gun. ie $200 barrel, $200 trigger pack, $200 stock

Aye, just get something like a Savage mk2 ($250) and throw a cheap scope on it. Can build on the fundamentals with that.

Aloha kawika
This is Steve

Mery looks way better, but DL finds you attractive lol

I have an AeroPrecision upper on my service rifle that I compete with. I believe AP forges and/or machines their own. Works fine.

I built myself an AR with an Aero Precision lower, upper, barrel, bolt carrier group, barrel nut, and hand guards.  I've never shot it from a bench rest, but I'm pretty sure I'm the limiting factor in the system when it comes to accuracy.  Parts fit together very well with little to no "play," and I haven't had a malfunction with it yet (but only ~100 rounds through it).  Would a Bravo Company, Daniel Defense, Sig, or Noveske probably be more accurate?  Sure.  Would they cost a bunch more? Probably.

I'm happy with my AP stuff.  If I build another AR (probably in .308), I'll probably stick with AP for the upper/lower...  Might go elsewhere for BCG, barrel, trigger.