Another anti-gun article by Civil Beat, with a very small comment by Sen. Slom at the end for "balance". 

http://www.civilbeat.com/2015/08/study-hawaiis-low-rate-of-gun-injuries-shows-strict-gun-control-laws-work/

Dear John,

Hawaii's 2010 population was 1,360,301   about 1/9th of the second highest rated state, South Carolina.
Do the math.

Hawaii's 2014 population was 1,419,561

"Capt. Gerald Kaneshiro of the HPD’s Records Division thinks there are well over a million guns in the state, citing that many households own several guns."
http://www.civilbeat.com/2015/04/are-there-more-guns-than-people-in-hawaii/
Again, please do the math

If the author concludes that stricter laws= less injuries, then new york should have much less injuries.

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Looks like the Brady Campaign took the NRA's gun laws map and gave all the "Rights Restricted - Very Limited Issue" states the best grades.

https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws.aspx

He somehow forgot to add DC, Califorina, NY and Illinois to this article.

And lets not forget Chi-town IL

Dear John,

Hawaii's 2010 population was 1,360,301   about 1/9th of the second highest rated state, South Carolina.
Do the math.

Hawaii's 2014 population was 1,419,561

"Capt. Gerald Kaneshiro of the HPD’s Records Division thinks there are well over a million guns in the state, citing that many households own several guns."
http://www.civilbeat.com/2015/04/are-there-more-guns-than-people-in-hawaii/
Again, please do the math

Stating the rate (x per 100,000) of injuries rather than gross numbers accounts for population differences.

And lets not forget Chi-town IL

Or Vermont....

A reporter from the Civil Beat sent me a link to the article (after it was done and posted, and after I had just finished reading it via the link here...) so I relied to their email:

Thank you for the link. I had just finished reading the story when I saw your email.

Unfortunately, the reporter simply parroted the the finding of the study rather than review the information critically. 

Crime and the consequences of criminal activity are a complicated mix of societal factors. Blaming guns for high rates of crime or injury, or strict gun control laws as the sole reason for low gun crime and injury rate is simplistic at best and at worst, a gross distortion of causality. Vermont, which has very "lax" gun laws, including "Constitutional Carry" (meaning you do not need a permit to open or concealed carry a firearm), and Utah, another state with "lax" gun laws and permissive concealed carry laws, have a gun injury rate similar to Hawaii. California, Illinois, and Washington D.C., which have very restrictive gun and concealed carry laws, have gun injury rates that lead the nation. Clearly there are other factors besides just guns that are influencing these injury rates.

As all statistic students are told, correlation does not equal causation. A basic tenet that both your reporter and the study's authors apparently failed to grasp. 

Kind regards,

Exactly what I was thinking HiCarry.

They're just publishing a bad study.
That study would get a D at best in Stats 101.

1 variable and the States with strictest variable (gun laws) are at the other end of the conclusion ? 

Well said HiCarry ! 

We probably have the highest rate of guns per citizen, of any state, at around 70% (1,000,000 guns / 1,419,561 citizens = 70%). And one of the lowest rate of gun injuries means we have the best and safest gun owners in the U.S. and maybe the world! Is this a GREAT STATE or what? 

The main reason gun injuries are so low in Hawaii is the almost nonexistent influence of gangs here.  Organized crime like they have in cities like LA and Chicago just doesn't exist here.  Not to mention the vast majority of those shootings are with illegally possessed firearms!

It really bothers me that a so-called investigative journalist would try and explain Hawaii's low gun injury rates in a "gun control" vacuum!

The main reason gun injuries are so low in Hawaii is the almost nonexistent influence of gangs here.  Organized crime like they have in cities like LA and Chicago just doesn't exist here.  Not to mention the vast majority of those shootings are with illegally possessed firearms!

It really bothers me that a so-called investigative journalist would try and explain Hawaii's low gun injury rates in a "gun control" vacuum!

Lack of ghettos and attendant culture has consequences?  How amazing?

TTAG has picked up the story...

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/08/foghorn/study-claims-hawaiis-gun-control-laws-work-until-you-look-closely/

Im in an extended argument with a guy in the comments section of this article. Personally I think I am winning hehe.

Im in an extended argument with a guy in the comments section of this article. Personally I think I am winning hehe.

Which side of the issue are you arguing in favor of?

Im in an extended argument with a guy in the comments section of this article. Personally I think I am winning hehe.

Tell us which poster you are and I'll tell you if you're winning.

Tell us which poster you are and I'll tell you if you're winning.

i got a huge headache from reading half of the comments

i got a huge headache from reading half of the comments

No shit lol... that John Kawamoto is some sort of special.  I just posted an extremely long winded uh... post...  Fortunately it was all copy paste lol..