It's okay to own guns if you have cancer as long as you are taking high-priced dangerous prescription pain medication that does more damage than the cancer.

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_phoenix_metro/central_phoenix/medical-marijuana-users-may-have-to-give-up-their-guns

just more of the usual ATF crazy super power abilities every day get worse and worse as i learn more and see things change towards us becoming the USSA

The ink isn't even dry on the Fast and Furious scandal.

The ink isn't even dry on the Fast and Furious scandal.

That's an understatement.

As for the original article, that is just one of the things about medical marijuana. The State can see it as being OK but it is still a controlled substance according to the Feds. In Cali, the Feds were shutting down dispenaries even though they were perfectly legal under State law. Unless you were to take that power away from the Federal Government, things won't change (i.e. don't smoke weed?)

Quote from: hvybarrels on September 30, 2011, 09:19:44 AM

The ink isn't even dry on the Fast and Furious scandal.

That's an understatement.

As for the original article, that is just one of the things about medical marijuana. The State can see it as being OK but it is still a controlled substance according to the Feds. In Cali, the Feds were shutting down dispenaries even though they were perfectly legal under State law. Unless you were to take that power away from the Federal Government, things won't change (i.e. don't smoke weed?)

I want! I want!

An interesting case from Oregon.

http://www.dailytidings.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111006/NEWS02/110060306/-1/<br />

Sheriff who refused to issue a CCW to a medicinal MJ user loses every legal challenge, including the Oregon Supreme Court, petitions SCOTUS to hear the case.

An interesting case from Oregon.

http://www.dailytidings.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111006/NEWS02/110060306/-1/<br />

Sheriff who refused to issue a CCW to a medicinal MJ user loses every legal challenge, including the Oregon Supreme Court, petitions SCOTUS to hear the case.

i like how the courts actually ruled in favor of the people, usually they don't even want to touch constitutional rights and just keep pushing it up for the big leagues to decide.

Quote from: HiCarry on October 06, 2011, 03:38:02 PM

An interesting case from Oregon.

http://www.dailytidings.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111006/NEWS02/110060306/-1/<br />

Sheriff who refused to issue a CCW to a medicinal MJ user loses every legal challenge, including the Oregon Supreme Court, petitions SCOTUS to hear the case.

i like how the courts actually ruled in favor of the people, usually they don't even want to touch constitutional rights and just keep pushing it up for the big leagues to decide.

That's because it's Oregon.  Biggest bunch of Hippie lovin pot heads in the country.  TOTALLY uber liberal illegal immigrant supportive welfare state in the nation.  Is it any wonder there are also the highest incidents of identity theft there as well?  Don't believe it's a welfare state?  You aren't allowed to pump your own gas.  It's a Class 3 fire hazard and the state has deemed it mandatory to protect you from it so you cannot pump your own.  Slight allowance is if you are on a motorcycle, and mostly because it's a liability thing over not wanting to be responsible for spilling gas on the rider or paint on the tank.  However, you are still NOT allowed to take or replace the nozzle, you have you get it and return it to the attendant.  Needs to break off the continent with KommieFornia and sink into the ocean, IMO.

as much as i don't like hippies i have to entirely disagree with the whole pot turning people into the lunatics that "reefer madness" makes them out to be. we can drink alcohol and anybody that would try to say it's not a "mind altering" substance is completely in denial. legalize it and you lose a majority of the idiots that only do it because it's illegal. prohibition was a gigantic failure and if you compare our war on drugs to it we should apply the very same rules to these illegal substances.

as much as i don't like hippies i have to entirely disagree with the whole pot turning people into the lunatics that "reefer madness" makes them out to be. we can drink alcohol and anybody that would try to say it's not a "mind altering" substance is completely in denial. legalize it and you lose a majority of the idiots that only do it because it's illegal. prohibition was a gigantic failure and if you compare our war on drugs to it we should apply the very same rules to these illegal substances.

I think more people would smoke it if it were legal, but I still think it should be legalized.  The potheads have a hell of a point when they point out that it's less harmful/likely to cause criminal mischief than alcohol.  Not that the harmfulness of a substance is legitimate grounds for a prohibition.  I'm a firm believer that no law is valid which seeks only to protect the citizens from themselves.  Prime examples are marijuana and seatbelts, or motorcycle helmet laws.

EDIT: I'd like to add that I do not smoke pot, and I stand in solidarity with Eric Cartman's position on hippies.

Y'all would be already be living in a fascist police state if it weren't for the hippies.  Who do you think has been fighting the good fight and insisting the the government actually behave itself for the last 30 years?  Faux News?

if we didn't have hippies it would be much easier to weed out the socialist infiltrators that have made their way into our government.

Y'all would be already be living in a fascist police state if it weren't for the hippies.  Who do you think has been fighting the good fight and insisting the the government actually behave itself for the last 30 years?  Faux News?

What did they do for 200 years before the hippies showed up, then?

Y'all would be already be living in a fascist police state if it weren't for the hippies.  Who do you think has been fighting the good fight and insisting the the government actually behave itself for the last 30 years?  Faux News?

Riiiiight,
The hippies are fighting the good fight...

Quote from: crazy cat on October 07, 2011, 06:58:32 AM

Y'all would be already be living in a fascist police state if it weren't for the hippies.  Who do you think has been fighting the good fight and insisting the the government actually behave itself for the last 30 years?  Faux News?

What did they do for 200 years before the hippies showed up, then?

I liked the non-edited version better . 

Lets see whats safer?

An Alcoholic with a CCW
A Person on Prescription Narcotics with a CCW
or
A person using Medical Marijuana with a CCW?

I would take the 3rd choice over the other 2.  But if a situation came into play they would all make CCW look bad!

Heh:
http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6629182/dont-legalize-weed

This seems like a good place for this question:

I know the Fed has declared medical marijuana grounds for disallowing firearms ownership, but does the Hawaii permitting process enforce this? Can a Hawaii resident with a medical marijuana permit apply for a long gun permit and then buy a shotgun at a local store?

Anyone know of anyone who has been denied permit to acquire based on having a medical marijuana permit?

Before you ask or assume, I already have my permits and do not have a medical marijuana card or any interest in obtaining one. The question came up when I was encouraging some friends with a young baby living in a dicey area to attend the hunters ed class if they wanted to consider having a firearm for home defense and hunting.

Faux news!!! Haha

This seems like a good place for this question:

I know the Fed has declared medical marijuana grounds for disallowing firearms ownership, but does the Hawaii permitting process enforce this? Can a Hawaii resident with a medical marijuana permit apply for a long gun permit and then buy a shotgun at a local store?

Anyone know of anyone who has been denied permit to acquire based on having a medical marijuana permit?

Before you ask or assume, I already have my permits and do not have a medical marijuana card or any interest in obtaining one. The question came up when I was encouraging some friends with a young baby living in a dicey area to attend the hunters ed class if they wanted to consider having a firearm for home defense and hunting.

You cannot purchase a gun, or possess one if you consume, are consuming, or possess MJ.  This includes the card.  Moreover, if a dealer knows you have a card, they can't even sell to you because it considered evidence you are an unlawful user of drugs.

I don't think Hawaii does anything about this.  Most states don't do anything about it either, its a "federal" issue.