Oregon tragedy (Read 14151 times)

ren

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robtmc

Re: Oregon tragedy
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2015, 09:34:31 AM »
Being an inveterate cynic, it will be obvious where I view this coming from.

whynow?

Re: Oregon tragedy
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2015, 11:26:35 AM »
Prayers for the innocent souls lost today and condolences for their families.

Inspector

Re: Oregon tragedy
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2015, 11:55:28 AM »
I heard on HNN that the shooter is dead now....
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

mauidog

Re: Oregon tragedy
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2015, 12:01:49 PM »
I heard on HNN that the shooter is dead now....

That's also in the OP's link:

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Here's what we know as of 5:30 p.m. ET:

    Authorities told Fox News they responded to a report of a shooting Thursday at around 10:38 a.m. local time.

    The shooter was a 20-year-old male and he is now dead.

An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

robtmc

Re: Oregon tragedy
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2015, 12:08:09 PM »
Read elsewhere:

"Twitter user @BodhiLooney, who said her grandma was at the school, said the shooter asked people if they were Christian.

“If they said yes, then they were shot in the head,” she wrote. “If they said no, or didn’t answer, they were shot in the legs.”"

Yet another whackjob, dug up from who knows where, by who knows who.

mauidog

Re: Oregon tragedy
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2015, 01:38:51 PM »
This didn't take long at all ....

White House Calls for Tougher Gun Laws

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President Obama was briefed on the shooting by his homeland security adviser, Lisa Monaco, and asked to
continue to receive updates throughout the day, a White House aide said Thursday.

Josh Earnest, the White House press secretary, said Thursday that “sensible steps that can be taken to
protect our communities from gun violence continues to be a top priority of this administration.”

Such steps would include ending the ability of private parties to sell guns without doing a background
check on purchasers, Mr. Earnest said. Mr. Obama’s inability to get such legislation through Congress
“has been a source of frustration for him,” Mr. Earnest said.

http://www.nytimes.com/live/shooting-at-umpqua-community-college/white-house-calls-for-tougher-gun-laws

It's so efficient and convenient, having an agenda ready for the next tragedy!   :(
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

Inspector

Re: Oregon tragedy
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2015, 02:22:40 PM »
This didn't take long at all ....

White House Calls for Tougher Gun Laws

http://www.nytimes.com/live/shooting-at-umpqua-community-college/white-house-calls-for-tougher-gun-laws

It's so efficient and convenient, having an agenda ready for the next tragedy!   :(
I know I sound paranoid. but I believe the release of certain shootings is coordinated with the press. It just seems too convenient to me that he is so quick to have the words in his mouth..... Guess I need a tinfoil hat.  :wacko:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

ren

Re: Oregon tragedy
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2015, 02:25:23 PM »
gun laws because it is much harder to outlaw crazy.... :grrr:
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one2boost

Re: Oregon tragedy
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2015, 03:58:47 PM »
It's the school's fault, obviously.  The "Gun Free Zone" signs were obviously not visible.  The school needs larger signs and placed in more areas around the school.

mauidog

Re: Oregon tragedy
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2015, 04:13:25 PM »
Part of the President's remarks...

 :popcorn:

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We don't yet know why this individual did what he did.  And it's fair to say that anybody who does this has a sickness in their minds, regardless of what they think their motivations may be.  But we are not the only country on Earth that has people with mental illnesses or want to do harm to other people.  We are the only advanced country on Earth that sees these kinds of mass shootings every few months. 

Earlier this year, I answered a question in an interview by saying, “The United States of America is the one advanced nation on Earth in which we do not have sufficient common-sense gun-safety laws -- even in the face of repeated mass killings.”  And later that day, there was a mass shooting at a movie theater in Lafayette, Louisiana.  That day!  Somehow this has become routine.  The reporting is routine.  My response here at this podium ends up being routine.  The conversation in the aftermath of it.  We've become numb to this.

We talked about this after Columbine and Blacksburg, after Tucson, after Newtown, after Aurora, after Charleston.  It cannot be this easy for somebody who wants to inflict harm on other people to get his or her hands on a gun. 

And what’s become routine, of course, is the response of those who oppose any kind of common-sense gun legislation.  Right now, I can imagine the press releases being cranked out:  We need more guns, they’ll argue.  Fewer gun safety laws. 

Does anybody really believe that?  There are scores of responsible gun owners in this country --they know that's not true.  We know because of the polling that says the majority of Americans understand we should be changing these laws -- including the majority of responsible, law-abiding gun owners.

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And, of course, what’s also routine is that somebody, somewhere will comment and say, Obama politicized this issue.  Well, this is something we should politicize.  It is relevant to our common life together, to the body politic.  I would ask news organizations -- because I won't put these facts forward -- have news organizations tally up the number of Americans who’ve been killed through terrorist attacks over the last decade and the number of Americans who’ve been killed by gun violence, and post those side-by-side on your news reports.  This won't be information coming from me; it will be coming from you.  We spend over a trillion dollars, and pass countless laws, and devote entire agencies to preventing terrorist attacks on our soil, and rightfully so.  And yet, we have a Congress that explicitly blocks us from even collecting data on how we could potentially reduce gun deaths.  How can that be?

This is a political choice that we make to allow this to happen every few months in America.  We collectively are answerable to those families who lose their loved ones because of our inaction.  When Americans are killed in mine disasters, we work to make mines safer.  When Americans are killed in floods and hurricanes, we make communities safer.  When roads are unsafe, we fix them to reduce auto fatalities.  We have seatbelt laws because we know it saves lives.  So the notion that gun violence is somehow different, that our freedom and our Constitution prohibits any modest regulation of how we use a deadly weapon, when there are law-abiding gun owners all across the country who could hunt and protect their families and do everything they do under such regulations doesn’t make sense.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/10/01/statement-president-shootings-umpqua-community-college-roseburg-oregon
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

mauidog

Re: Oregon tragedy
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2015, 04:46:54 PM »
Let's now take a little time to look at things in relation to the truth:

http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/index.ssf/2015/05/gun_background_check_passes_or.html

Oregon passed "universal" background checks for PRIVATE firearms purchases last May.  The measure was heavily pushed by Bloomberg's money and his Everytown for Gun Safety PR minions.

So, how can Obama stand up on national TV and push for something that already exists in the state where this shooting happened?

 :wtf:
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

mauidog

Re: Oregon tragedy
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2015, 04:49:12 PM »
From Megan Kelley's interview with the local Oregon Sheriff:

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Sheriff Hanlin re: #OregonShooting - "I will not name the shooter. I will not give him the credit he probably sought."
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

mauidog

Re: Oregon tragedy
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2015, 05:05:11 PM »
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

Jl808

Re: Oregon tragedy
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2015, 05:32:55 PM »
The blood hasn't even dried and they are already calling for gun control.
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whynow?

Re: Oregon tragedy
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2015, 05:49:46 PM »
Of course Barry had to make his comments so early after the tragedy since Syria is making him look like the community organizer and not a national leader that he is.  Surprising that Ms. I Didn't Wipe Clinton didn't pipe in yet.
Barry always says "common sense" yet looking at his own line of thought he has none (or none that everyday working people have learned ).  Think of illegal immigration as a plumbing leak.   Most normal people would stop the source of the leak first (secure the border) and then concentrate on the water that's already out (illegals in the USA).   To Obama and his minions, common sense is to try take care the illegals here and make them legal  while letting the border leak like a broken sewer pipe.   Instead of 11 mil. in 2012 we will be looking at 14 mil in 2016.

Obama has about 1 more year left and if he can ramrod his common sense global warming agenda by spring,  you know that his next and last target is to ban guns before he leaves.
You can probably expect more of these incidents to make his talking points reality.   Don't think he will stop at a AWB but go for the gold and try ban all repeating firearms.   The question is how will they handle all the free states and free individuals that will disobey his laws.   For free people this will be like you're living in Nazi Germany trying to outwit and fight the Gestapo.

Heavies

Re: Oregon tragedy
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2015, 06:04:40 PM »
If something like this happens here, how quick do you think the bans will come?  not much time left for us here IMO.

whynow?

Re: Oregon tragedy
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2015, 06:11:14 PM »
If something like this happens here, how quick do you think the bans will come?  not much time left for us here IMO.
Roger that.  Everyone need to be prepared for that 0300 knock at your front door.

edster48

Re: Oregon tragedy
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2015, 06:11:26 PM »
This didn't take long at all ....

White House Calls for Tougher Gun Laws

http://www.nytimes.com/live/shooting-at-umpqua-community-college/white-house-calls-for-tougher-gun-laws

It's so efficient and convenient, having an agenda ready for the next tragedy!   :(

I know I sound paranoid. but I believe the release of certain shootings is coordinated with the press. It just seems too convenient to me that he is so quick to have the words in his mouth..... Guess I need a tinfoil hat.  :wacko:

I'm in agreement with these sentiments.

Pretty convenient indeed, to have the media pushing this, and a statement broadcast within a few HOURS after the event.

The bodies weren't even cold yet.

Anyone else thinking this will turn out to be yet another "disturbed" secular, liberal, registered democrat? Or at least two of the above?

I'm not normally one for conspiracy theories, in fact I just had to "unfollow" a guy I like on facebook because of his extreme theories about 9/11, but this has become just a little too pat.

Always some "gun free zone" like a school or a mall. Always a "disturbed" individual with access to guns.

None of these guys ever thought of building a bomb? Everything you need is available at local stores and there is no waiting period.

Something doesn't add up here.
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