Foil hat on........

Foil hat on........

Good lord....anyone can cook up a conspiracy...all it takes it not understanding or having access to the details.  HAT ON!

The problem with these conspiracy theories is that I've seen how good the government is at keeping secrets.  (Hint: they suck at it.)  Also, they assume that 1) the US government was willing to kill 3,000-odd Americans for some shadowy goal that we can't be certain of, 2) that college students with MacBooks were able to unravel the plot, and 3) that the same government that slaughtered the aforementioned 3,000 people is not willing to rub out a few dissenters who have caught the scent and are making noise about it. 

The problem with these conspiracy theories is that I've seen how good the government is at keeping secrets.  (Hint: they suck at it.)  Also, they assume that 1) the US government was willing to kill 3,000-odd Americans for some shadowy goal that we can't be certain of, 2) that college students with MacBooks were able to unravel the plot, and 3) that the same government that slaughtered the aforementioned 3,000 people is not willing to rub out a few dissenters who have caught the scent and are making noise about it.

This. 

The problem with these conspiracy theories is that I've seen how good the government is at keeping secrets.  (Hint: they suck at it.)  Also, they assume that 1) the US government was willing to kill 3,000-odd Americans for some shadowy goal that we can't be certain of, 2) that college students with MacBooks were able to unravel the plot, and 3) that the same government that slaughtered the aforementioned 3,000 people is not willing to rub out a few dissenters who have caught the scent and are making noise about it. 

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I don't automatically dismiss something just because somebody calls it a conspiracy theory.  I figure if you and I can think of something, the "other guy" can think of it, too.  I don't know how I can make it clear, except to note that Generals win battles by trying to think up things the enemy "might" do.

This is not to say I accept "conspiracy" theories automatically, just as a General might dismiss the idea that the enemy might have bases on Mars from which he can bombard my position, but there's something to make note of and park in a remote corner of the brain.  Surely it would be counterproductive to actually develop tactics to counter a bombardment from Mars, but just because something's "way out there" doesn't mean it's impossible.

Too, the left has become quite adept at marginalizing certain conceptions and activites of the right, and one of the easiest techniques to do this is to label something as a conspiracy theory.

Or me as a "red-necked hillbilly right-winger."  Remember Johnny Carson as "Floyd R. Turbo?"



Certainly not complimentary to hunters.

Sooo.... even though I don't take "conspiracy theories" too seriously, I still park them in the back corner of my mind as "possibilities" to await my "staff's" report on the matter.

You never know.  There might be someone building launching platforms on Mars.

If you get my drift.

And I prefer mu-metal foil hats as opposed to tin or aluminum foil.

Terry, 230RN

REF:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu-metal

Quote from: Cougar8045 on October 06, 2011, 08:02:44 PM

The problem with these conspiracy theories is that I've seen how good the government is at keeping secrets.  (Hint: they suck at it.)  Also, they assume that 1) the US government was willing to kill 3,000-odd Americans for some shadowy goal that we can't be certain of, 2) that college students with MacBooks were able to unravel t
he plot, and 3) that the same government that slaughtered the aforementioned 3,000 people is not willing to rub out a few dissenters who have caught the scent and are making noise about it. 

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Contrary to the normal channels of dissent, in this instance theories went viral via the world wide web. So to answer your question, No, a few dissenters couldn't have been rubbed out. Instead, the dissenters as a whole were mocked and ridiculed by the media. Also, to answer your second question, apparently, there are quite a few professors, engineers, witnesses, etc. that are stirring the pot, as well as leading protests and such.

And to answer your first question, well I don't know, but what I do know is whenever there is a tsunami, our beloved government officials run for cover in their super secret, well stocked, heavily guarded bunker, while we the people fight for a spot up tantalus.

A recent theory relating to the National Emergency Alert Test on Wednesday and the passing of that asteroid (2005 YU55) close to the earth tomorrow is based on the notion that the gummint "knows something more about the asteroid than they're telling us now."

Like it's going to hit the moon and smash it to bits... or earth itself, and the gummint is getting ready to control the panic that is bound to follow.

Interesting.

Another component of the theory is that since they are not going to terminate the test, but only give an end of message signal, this leaves it open for the gummint to essentially control all transmissions forever:

(SAMPLES)
Termination code. The test will conclude with transmission of the End Of Message (EOM) code, not the Emergency Action Termination (EAT) code. This should not require you to reconfigure your EASy Series encoder/decoder devices in any way.

........

They are REALLY stressing that there will not be a termination message used, which seems like would be the assumed procedure. The best I can guess is that it will only appear that they are ceding regular programming back to the stations, but because they are leaving it on an end of message (EOM), I can only guess that they are planning on coming back and interrupting in at some point in time (not necessarily that same day?) with some other message, whatever that may be. Ideas?

........

also why is NSA and NOAA taped ("tapped") into this! how stange we have a first time test on 11-09-11 and a asteroid coming close to Earth and a exercise pacific wave after a army guy called his Mother and told her to get prepeared and NSA & the FBI try to arest him for spyind but is being held by the Army in protective custody more Q's then A is.

Hey, I'm just pointing all this out.  I don't know what the guy means by "and a exercise pacific wave."  Is there some kind of tsunami test or something going to happen out there?

Terry, "Donning old expired flak jacket and old cracked bicycle helmet," 230RN


REFS:

Google "2005 YU55"

Google "National Emergency Test"

LINK TO QUOTES:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1694267/pg1

Jeez, Terry, thanks for that!  I'm going to imitate a sheeple and bury my head in the sand for the next 24 hours.  Not much I can do to prepare for Armageddon.  I certainly hope Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck are getting it done up there!

Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow the asteroid will strip earth of its atmosphere.

That's pretty cool asteroid stuff. Been so busy working that I would have completely missed it. Then again 11/8/11 has a major numerological significance, but first the light fluffy stuff:

As far as astropocalypse scenarios go there is the fact that the solar storms have been getting super active lately and will be peaking around this time next year, pretty much putting huge chunks of the grid at risk with only 20 to 45 minutes of warning. There have been a few really massive flares so far this year but they have all been heading in the wrong direction and we got off easy. With Nasa putting out scary warning videos a few months back telling it's employees to be prepared for events in the near future it's very likely that they are aware of something big. Unlike the 911 truth movement there are actually meaningful things we can be doing to mitigate risk from sun farts.

Getting deeper into tin foil hat land I did notice quite a few chem trails as the sun was setting last night. Some camps believe that they are mind control gasses to keep the population subdued during APEC, but I think it's more likely aluminum or some other kind of oxide particles (cause I had that stuff rain down on me while eating fish tacos at Wahoo's on Ward recently) and the intention is to either reflect heat back into space and slow down global warming....or give something for the HAARP arrays to lock onto for weather modification/geoengineering/earthquake weapons.

Deep deep deep in tin foil hat land is the numerological significance of lots of november 2011 dates, with a huge focus on 11/11/11. While some believe that tomorrow 11/8/11 is a more significant date you can rest assured that there are a large number of folks from the esoteric traditions that have been prepping hard recently and are now all hunkered down waiting for the action to start. Sure they don't believe in guns and make much easier targets, but they probably packed away a lot of vegan **** of little use to the rest of the population.

I would post more links but have to go back to work soon. If you do decide to google this stuff be warned that half of it is cointelpro designed to discredit legit sources and throw well-intentioned people off track with a bunch of mumbo jumbo. It's just like watching network news pretty much. The fun part is figuring out which half of what they say isn't total bulls#it.

chances are it will all go down exactly like this

What's interesting is that so many people think that since it will pass closer to the earth than the moon is, that it will pass "between the earth and the moon." 

But Its trajectory is considerably above the plane of the moon's orbit with respect to the earth.

At least on this pass.

chances are it will all go down exactly like this

Ha ha ha.........Thundarr the Barbarian.........awesome.

What's interesting is that so many people think that since it will pass closer to the earth than the moon is, that it will pass "between the earth and the moon." 

But Its trajectory is considerably above the plane of the moon's orbit with respect to the earth.

At least on this pass.

On Coast to Coast A.M. the astro something or another said it was passing at approximately 85% the distance to the moon, which lead me to believe between the earth and the moon.  Still a freaking long away away though.

http://www.goerie.com/article/20111108/NEWS02/311089922/Asteroid-to-pass-between-Earth-moon-today

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2098941,00.html#ixzz1dA77D8Ws

Halloooo, halloooo!  Is anyone out there?  Am I the only one left?  I'm in Denver, and none of the people are still here and none of the vehicles work...  Can anyone hear me?

Halloooooo, hallooooooo!











I guess people are thinking in two dimensions.  Eighty-five percent of the distance to the moon forms a sphere, and NASA had two images of the orbits... a plan view:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/541440main_2005_YU55_approach.gif

Clearly at no point is the object between the earth and the moon.

And a side view, which I cannot find now, looks edgewise at the orbit of the moon and showed that the asteroid was well above the plane of the moon's orbit and, again, at no point was it actually between the earth and the moon.  Or, for that matter, between the earth and the moon's orbit.

   

^^^Quit being a spoil sport.  While it's not a zombie apocalypse, I do think the world of Thundarr would be interesting to live in.

Well, my point was made:  that it's been ballyhooed as "between the earth and the moon," when it never was.  Scary enough anyhow, disunirrregardless.


And, having made that point, I shall now retire to my cozy little cave and contemplate my navel.

                               

I'm sure they won't forget to figure out any perturbations in its orbit for the next pass.  Things flying around the sun tend to aggregate, you know.  Meaning next time around it might be closer. We might even capture it as another moon.  We should name it "Lowmoon" or maybe "Bottomos." Would mess up the tide tables, though. And it strikes me that its passing might have slowed down the moon in its orbit.

Terry, 230RN

You navel itself, or the lint inside your navel?