How to Stop MASS SHOOTINGS (Read 7937 times)

mauidog

How to Stop MASS SHOOTINGS
« on: October 04, 2015, 03:39:17 PM »
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

edster48

Re: How to Stop MASS SHOOTINGS
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2015, 07:57:16 PM »
That must be some of that crazy ass "Logic" stuff I keep hearing about.......

Keep up the good work Mr. Noir.  :thumbsup:
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Re: How to Stop MASS SHOOTINGS
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2015, 08:32:58 PM »
 :thumbsup:
God, guns, and guts made America. Let's keep all three!

Bushido

Re: How to Stop MASS SHOOTINGS
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2015, 06:54:13 PM »
Call me closed minded but I absolutely can not understand how every American doesn't fell this way.

rustyeleio

Re: How to Stop MASS SHOOTINGS
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2015, 08:37:38 PM »
Me like Mr Noir!  :thumbsup:

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ren

Re: How to Stop MASS SHOOTINGS
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2015, 07:05:03 AM »
and here we go with the murderer's father blaming guns...
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/06/us/oregon-umpqua-shooting-mother-online-posts/index.html
man up...take responsibility for YOUR SON's actions.
That's the root of all our problems.
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whynow?

Re: How to Stop MASS SHOOTINGS
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2015, 10:16:18 AM »
The father is B.S. and cannot accept that his son was evil.   If the maniac didn't have guns he would have mowed them down with a car/truck or locked theatre doors and then started a fire.
What would happen if this type of mass murder occurred and had copycats?   TSA style body searches prior to entry and no bags inside of theatres.   The theatres might be happy since it will eliminate contraband arare and candy.
Bottom line is within a year, no one will go out for movies.   The father by his thinking is just as responsible.   

mauidog

Re: How to Stop MASS SHOOTINGS
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2015, 10:26:11 AM »
The father is B.S. and cannot accept that his son was evil.   If the maniac didn't have guns he would have mowed them down with a car/truck or locked theatre doors and then started a fire.
What would happen if this type of mass murder occurred and had copycats?   TSA style body searches prior to entry and no bags inside of theatres.   The theatres might be happy since it will eliminate contraband arare and candy.
Bottom line is within a year, no one will go out for movies.   The father by his thinking is just as responsible.

From Gov. Bobby Jindal's blog:

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And who is it that generally commits these evil acts of mass murder that are becoming routine?
It’s almost always young men who have either no father figure in their lives, or a broken relationship
with their father. Is this just a coincidence? Of course not.

Now, let’s get really politically incorrect here and talk specifically about this horror in Oregon. This
killer’s father is now lecturing us on the need for gun control and he says he has no idea how or
where his son got the guns.

Of course he doesn’t know. You know why he doesn’t know? Because he is not, and has never been in his
son’s life. He’s a complete failure as a father, he should be embarrassed to even show his face in public.
He’s the problem here.


He brags that he has never held a gun in his life and that he had no idea that his son had any guns. Why
didn’t he know? Because he failed to raise his son. He should be ashamed of himself, and he owes us all an apology.

When he was asked what his relationship was with his son, he said he hadn’t seen him in a while because he
lived with his mother. Case Closed.

https://www.bobbyjindal.com/jindal-we-fill-our-culture-with-garbage/
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

Jl808

How to Stop MASS SHOOTINGS
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2015, 10:29:28 AM »
Sorry, I don't want to make too broad a judgment / generalization but....why wasn't the dad in the kid's life?  I give the mom credit for raising the son by herself.

If he is going to have a kid, then he should be man enough to be present and be a dad for his son.  Why does he go blaming others for a responsibility that he failed to do?
« Last Edit: October 07, 2015, 12:20:11 PM by Jl808 »
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Re: How to Stop MASS SHOOTINGS
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2015, 07:17:22 PM »

mauidog

Re: How to Stop MASS SHOOTINGS
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2015, 10:50:03 PM »
Stole this from the Nut'n'Fancy YouTube comments ...

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Lt. Col. Dave Grossman recently gave an important talk to more than 250 police officers in an event hosted by the California Peace Officers Association on this topic. His comments from the policeone article are well worth posting in full: 

“In 1999,” Grossman said, “school violence claimed what at the time was an all time record number of kids’ lives. In that year there were 35 dead and a quarter of a million serious injuries due to violence in the school. How many killed by fire that year? Zero. But we hear people say, ‘That’s the year Columbine happened, that’s an anomaly.’ Well, in 2004 we had a new all time record — 48 dead in the schools from violence. How many killed by fire that year? Zero. Let’s assign some grades. Put your teacher hat on and give out some grades. What kind of grade do you give the firefighter for keeping kids safe? An ‘A,’ right? Reluctantly, reluctantly, the cops give the firefighters an ‘A,’ right? Danged firefighters, they sleep ‘till they’re hungry and eat ‘till they’re tired. What grade do we get for keeping the kids safe from violence? Come on, what’s our grade? Needs improvement, right?” Grossman went on, “Why can’t we be like little Johnny Firefighter?” Grossman asked as he prowled the stage. “He’s our A+ student!” He paused, briefly, and answered with a voice that blew through the hall like thunder, “Denial, denial, denial!”

Grossman commanded, “Look up at the ceiling! See all those sprinklers up there? They’re hard to spot — they’re painted black — but they’re there. While you’re looking, look at the material the ceiling is made of. You know that that stuff was selected because it’s fire-retardant. Hooah? Now look over there above the door — you see that fire exit sign? That’s not just any fire exit sign — that’s a ‘battery-backup-when-the-world-ends-it-will-still-be-lit’ fire exit sign. Hooah?”

Walking from the stage toward a nearby fire exit and exterior wall, Grossman slammed the palm of his hand against the wall and exclaimed, “Look at these wall boards! They were chosen because they’re what?! Fireproof or fire retardant, hooah? There is not one stinking thing in this room that will burn!”

Pointing around the room as he spoke, Grossman continued, “But you’ve still got those fire sprinklers, those fire exit signs, fire hydrants outside, and fire trucks nearby! Are these fire guys crazy? Are these fire guys paranoid? No! This fire guy is our A+ student! Because this fire guy has redundant, overlapping layers of protection, not a single kid has been killed by school fire in the last 50 years!

“But you try to prepare for violence — the thing much more likely to kill our kids in schools, the thing hundreds of times  more likely to kill our kids in schools — and people think you’re paranoid. They think you’re crazy. ...They’re in denial.”
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

Antithesis

Re: How to Stop MASS SHOOTINGS
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2015, 01:47:14 PM »
^  That was a great analogy.  I think I'll use that in future debates. 
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If you wish for peace, prepare for war

Jl808

Re: How to Stop MASS SHOOTINGS
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2015, 08:01:12 AM »
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mauidog

Re: How to Stop MASS SHOOTINGS
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2015, 09:43:03 PM »
THERE’S A WAY TO STOP MASS SHOOTINGS, AND YOU WON’T LIKE IT.

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That’s right. You’re not going to like it because it’s going to require you to do something personally, as opposed to shouting for the government, or anyone to “do something!”

You ready? Here it is:

“Notice those around you who seem isolated, and engage them.”

If every one of us did this we’d have a culture that was deeply committed to insuring no one was left lonely. And make no mistake, as I’ve written before loneliness is what
causes these shooters to lash out. People with solid connections to other people don’t indiscriminately fire guns at strangers.

I know what you’re thinking. That’s never going to work because no one is going to make the effort to connect with the strange kid sitting by himself at lunch each day.
No one is going to reach out to the gawky, awkward guy at work and ask him about his weekend.

You’re probably right and that’s an absolute shame.

Because I can tell you the things that aren’t going to work in this country when it comes to stopping these heinous acts. But they seem to be all anyone says, when inevitably,
another person comes forward to inflict their tortured pain on innocent people.

......



http://mystudentapt.com/2015/10/06/theres-a-way-to-stop-mass-shootings-and-you-wont-like-it/
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

Rocky

Re: How to Stop MASS SHOOTINGS
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2015, 04:47:28 PM »
THERE’S A WAY TO STOP MASS SHOOTINGS, AND YOU'll LIKE IT

Get laid ..  :o

In the manifesto, shooter lamented his difficulties with women.

“I am going to die friendless, girlfriendless, and a virgin,”

Apparently, if this idiots mom would have gave him $50 for a whore instead of trying to get him on a gun range, this never would have happened !

    And why the F do I have to LITERALLY  SEARCH for news of  Hero Chris Mintz  after wading thru pictures and updates of  "The lucky one", "shooters father not to attend victims funerals", "no change in student victims condition", "survivor escaped by playing dead"  and unbelievably,  "victims freak'n service dog survives''.

   The media says they (the shooters) do it for attention,  then give it to them piping hot served up fresh on a silver platter ! :wtf:
No wonder why it's in vogue.

   If  Hero Chris Mintzwas carrying a gun in this semi CCW allowable state and averted this disaster, we would have never heard of Hero Chris Mintz   and.......  what's his face.
 :closed:
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