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antoinebugleboy

Re: Do you carry in your residence? And if so,what is your's??
« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2011, 11:01:04 PM »
GZire won't like it, but this is a nice article from Wikipedia on "stopping power'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stopping_power
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antoinebugleboy

Re: Do you carry in your residence? And if so,what is your's??
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2011, 11:03:57 PM »
Quote from: Pizzo on October 06, 2011, 11:00:00 PM
Quote from: antoinebugleboy on October 06, 2011, 10:51:03 PM
Quote from: vooduchikn on October 06, 2011, 10:13:37 PM
Quote from: Growler67 on October 06, 2011, 10:00:05 PM
One has to adapt and apply a plan that will work best for them, regardless what caliber it is.  Personally, handguns are better suited to tight spaces within my house.  I'd rather have the manuverability and be able to put 147gr of JHP on target than 75gr TAP from my AR, it's just more mass on target.

However, ANY firearm discharge is likely to result in a fecal discharge by the intruder(s) followed by a trail to track them with if they think are fast enough.

147grn from any pistol is unequal to 75grn from a rifle, any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Force=mass-X-acceleration applies. Velocity is key here.

Not that I have a degree in physics or anything. Simple math applies here.

Your choice.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the greater velocity of the smaller rifle round end up causing a lot more damage than the heavier round from a pistol? With the cavitating effects of the round in soft tissue, I think the AR round has been known to take a man's arm right off.
AntoineBugleBoy, you are correct....with that being said.... :stopjack:..lol!!
So, Bugle....what are your thoughts on residential carry? Do you carry at home, and if so...what?

I'm pretty new to guns, and for the time being, I'm strictly a recreational shooter. I live in a very small apartment], a few floors up at the end of a long, interior hallway. I really, really don't need to be carrying in my home.
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Growler67

Re: Do you carry in your residence? And if so,what is your's??
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2011, 11:05:52 PM »
I was just stating that my preference is for a handgun in tighter quarters than manuvering my 32" Carbine.  The physics play out as described, but there is also higher risk ov overpenetrating and the cardboard box houses in Hawaii means that then neighbors house will get perforated as much as the target.  It is mt choice and adaptation, I impose it upon nobody else.

As for blowing an arm off........I don't aim for extremities.  I am proficient and confident in my abilities with my 9mm's and since it is what I am most proficient with, it is my preferred choice at this time.  Though I have experience with AR's from my time in the Army, my AR is still relatively new to me.  I do not lack any confidence in my abilities with it, I just know that I am not as proficient with it as I would like to be.

I believe shot placement trumps caliber in the Great Caliber Debate, and a rifle does trump a handgun (generally) as a shotgun trumps a rifle (generally),  What anyone has planned for their HD needs and has practiced and rehersed will work best for them until that plan is revised.
« Last Edit: October 07, 2011, 03:46:43 PM by Growler67 »
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Pizzo

Re: Do you carry in your residence? And if so,what is your's??
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2011, 11:11:01 PM »
Quote from: antoinebugleboy on October 06, 2011, 11:03:57 PM
Quote from: Pizzo on October 06, 2011, 11:00:00 PM
Quote from: antoinebugleboy on October 06, 2011, 10:51:03 PM
Quote from: vooduchikn on October 06, 2011, 10:13:37 PM
Quote from: Growler67 on October 06, 2011, 10:00:05 PM
One has to adapt and apply a plan that will work best for them, regardless what caliber it is.  Personally, handguns are better suited to tight spaces within my house.  I'd rather have the manuverability and be able to put 147gr of JHP on target than 75gr TAP from my AR, it's just more mass on target.

However, ANY firearm discharge is likely to result in a fecal discharge by the intruder(s) followed by a trail to track them with if they think are fast enough.

147grn from any pistol is unequal to 75grn from a rifle, any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Force=mass-X-acceleration applies. Velocity is key here.

Not that I have a degree in physics or anything. Simple math applies here.

Your choice.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the greater velocity of the smaller rifle round end up causing a lot more damage than the heavier round from a pistol? With the cavitating effects of the round in soft tissue, I think the AR round has been known to take a man's arm right off.
AntoineBugleBoy, you are correct....with that being said.... :stopjack:..lol!!
So, Bugle....what are your thoughts on residential carry? Do you carry at home, and if so...what?

I'm pretty new to guns, and for the time being, I'm strictly a recreational shooter. I live in a very small apartment], a few floors up at the end of a long, interior hallway. I really, really don't need to be carrying in my home.
That's understandable, thanx for the input!  :shaka:
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Re: Do you carry in your residence? And if so,what is your's??
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2011, 03:37:30 AM »
I carry occasionally around the house. A G22 in a comp-tac style holster. It is so easy to conceal and no one knows I have it on until they feel it.
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Tom_G

Re: Do you carry in your residence? And if so,what is your's??
« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2011, 03:10:29 PM »
Quote from: 2aHawaii on October 07, 2011, 03:37:30 AM
I carry occasionally around the house. A G22 in a comp-tac style holster. It is so easy to conceal and no one knows I have it on until they feel it.

One day I was at home cleaning guns, and had my snubby tucked in an IWB holster.  I was expecting a friend over with a delivery, so when the knock came at the door, I wasn't terribly concerned.  I found it dod that, as I was opening the door, his eyes went straight to where my snubbie was "concealed" then he smiled.  I looked down, and all I saw was belly.   I still don't know what gave it away!  Made me seriously rethink what qualified as "concealed," though.  For a while, I switched to cargo pants, and started carrying in the front pocket, but keeping my keys and such in the cargo pockets.
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Growler67

Re: Do you carry in your residence? And if so,what is your's??
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2011, 03:30:24 PM »
Did you check yourself in a mirror?  Something has to have printed.
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mokeanne

Re: Do you carry in your residence? And if so,what is your's??
« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2011, 07:07:45 PM »
how interesting. i've never thought to carry at home, but i like the idea of getting used to wearing a holster.
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Armaggeddon_Armory

Re: Do you carry in your residence? And if so,what is your's??
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2011, 01:41:26 PM »
I don't carry at home. My junkyard cat guards the front door like a Doberman, if a neighbor stray cat comes by to scrap, he growls and hisses and scares them off. If a unknown perp comes to the door, he runs and hides under the bed. He is my early warning system.  ;D

But I always have my 19C somewhere within arms reach if my tinfoil hat and cat don't do the trick.
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GZire

Re: Do you carry in your residence? And if so,what is your's??
« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2011, 10:09:14 AM »
Quote from: antoinebugleboy on October 06, 2011, 11:01:04 PM
GZire won't like it, but this is a nice article from Wikipedia on "stopping power'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stopping_power

Hey what?  How did I get dragged into this?  BTW Wiki can be edited by anyone so you need to take what is written with a grain of salt.





BTW, this is my idea of stopping power...........Juelz Ventura:

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Cougar8045

Re: Do you carry in your residence? And if so,what is your's??
« Reply #30 on: October 26, 2011, 10:18:11 AM »
^^^Stopped me in my tracks, that's for sure!  :o
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antoinebugleboy

Re: Do you carry in your residence? And if so,what is your's??
« Reply #31 on: October 26, 2011, 01:39:12 PM »
Quote from: GZire on October 26, 2011, 10:09:14 AM
Quote from: antoinebugleboy on October 06, 2011, 11:01:04 PM
GZire won't like it, but this is a nice article from Wikipedia on "stopping power'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stopping_power

Hey what?  How did I get dragged into this?  BTW Wiki can be edited by anyone so you need to take what is written with a grain of salt.





BTW, this is my idea of stopping power...........Juelz Ventura:



""How did I get dragged into this? " Haha, I said you wouldn't like it because every time I link to Wikipedia, you say something like, "BTW Wiki can be edited by anyone so you need to take what is written with a grain of salt."
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GZire

Re: Do you carry in your residence? And if so,what is your's??
« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2011, 02:49:45 PM »
^^^You gotta admit, I'm pretty consistent.  :)
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antoinebugleboy

Re: Do you carry in your residence? And if so,what is your's??
« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2011, 02:50:41 PM »
Quote from: GZire on October 26, 2011, 02:49:45 PM
^^^You gotta admit, I'm pretty consistent.  :)

:)
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There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. - Heinlein

I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine. - Rand

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. - Hitchens

Pizzo

Re: Do you carry in your residence? And if so,what is your's??
« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2011, 06:19:06 AM »
Quote from: GZire on October 26, 2011, 10:09:14 AM
Quote from: antoinebugleboy on October 06, 2011, 11:01:04 PM
GZire won't like it, but this is a nice article from Wikipedia on "stopping power'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stopping_power

Hey what?  How did I get dragged into this?  BTW Wiki can be edited by anyone so you need to take what is written with a grain of salt.





BTW, this is my idea of stopping power...........Juelz Ventura:


Now that is some serious stopping power that I think we can ALL agree on!!  :thumbsup:
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