From HPD's Facebook stream:

That's a real bummer...

He was one of the nicer, more level headed RO's I knew. I feel bad for the guy...

Heavies is right. Whatever the situation may be, he owned up to it with integrity and self respect. I do hope his punishment isn't too harsh, or that there may be more underlying circumstances then what has been released thus far.

Any truth to the 3 fired RO's rumor? 

I agree Kevin was one of the more level headed, nicer RO's on the range.

I even use to tell my wife to ask "that guy" any questions cause he's the most professional one here.... I'll pray for him so the truth comes out.... "The Truth Shall Set You Free" 

Props for the integrity and honesty the guy put out; still looking negative upon the others who allowed him to do something so stupid; still looking negative on the oversight that allowed a public range to be closed for two days for "investigation"

He went on the news and talked to the police, owned up to it.  lol...  wonder if his lawyer thought that was a good idea?   bye, bye gun rights if he gets hit with a felony...

feel bad for the guy , I feel after hearing him , that it was a stupid mistake.  but damn, did he even think to/or get legal representation? 

I worked with Kev when Power Edge first opened up. He was the nicer of our two refs. He was also amazing with every firearm (real and airsoft) he ever touched. As everyone has also said, one of the best, most casual,without being careless, RO's at the range. Hopefully, he makes it out of this unscathed.

I worked with Kev when Power Edge first opened up. He was the nicer of our two refs. He was also amazing with every firearm (real and airsoft) he ever touched. As everyone has also said, one of the best, most casual,without being careless, RO's at the range. Hopefully, he makes it out of this unscathed.

Well, I guess you can count flareguns off his "amazing"  and "without being carless" list.  Regardless of if his is  a nice guy or not, an employee or not, he should get the same treatment as any other citizen would under the law.

Why should he make it out unscathed...would any of us?

Just throwing that out there for thought....

Anybody know if the rifle range will be open this week?

The point  I was trying to make was that he doesn't seem the type to "accidentally" shoot a flare off. I just hope he's not taking the fall for someone else's F-up.

The point  I was trying to make was that he doesn't seem the type to "accidentally" shoot a flare off. I just hope he's not taking the fall for someone else's F-up.

I understand your point. I too hope that he would not sacrifice his integrity by taking the fall for someone else.

Just an FYI so folks know who's running our range and how they make our decisions....I spoke to the interim director for the parks on the east side of Oahu...I wanted to know why they had closed the entire park when HPD had said they only needed to close the rifle and pistol areas. She was apologetic, but not in a very sincere way, i.e., "I'm sorry you didn't get to shoot on Saturday or Sunday" despite the fact I pointed out it was not I, per se, but the students I had scheduled for class that were the victims of the poor decision making. She also said they had to close the range because they needed to conduct an "internal" investigation and that everyone was being investigated so that left no one to supervise the range. I tried to explain that the clubs/organizations that ran the ohter shooting venues provided their own RSOs and supervision, but she said that despite that, someone needed to be there to oversee the general operations. So, I asked why the the acting Chief RSO, who was there Saturday and Sunday, couldn't provide this general oversight. She said he too was under investigation and therefore could not act in his "official" capacity. So, I asked why he was there and she said he was helping HFD and HPD in their investigation. "But" I said, if he's helping out HFD and HPD, isn't that acting in his official capacity and if indeed she felt he needed to be relieved of his official duties due to being under investigation, how could she condone him "assisting" HFD/HPD in the investigation? I also asked that if he was so relieved why wasn't someone else, possibly her, there assisting the investigators from HFD/HPD. At this point she bacame quite irate and screamed at me "I was there on my day off..." She also made many other comments that demonstrated that she was very unfamilar with the way the range operated and that she essentially didn't care that many of Hawaii's shooters, with no where else to shoot, either for pleasure of to comply with Hawaii's laws concerning handgun training and aquisition, were left with no where to shoot.

I also spoke to her boss...don't recall his name right now, and he too, while not as agitated and defensive, clearly showed little regard for the inconvenience they imposed on shooters. At one point, while trying to demonstrate why they didn't need to close down the entire range, I provided this ananology: If there was a structural issue with the roof on the rifle range but the remaining structures were deemed OK, would you need to close the range. His reply was "well, that's different. Now we're talking about a structural problem..." He also mentioned he was "getting tired of repeating himself" when explaining why they needed to close the entire range. I told him I was getting tired as well and that it was clear he wasn't really getting the issue at hand. He finally agreed that the decision to close the entire range was possibly a mistake and that they'd look at the manner the clubs essentially ran "their" ranges with little or no oversight from C&C staff to see if that,in the future, given another problem, that it would not necessarily automatically mean the entire range needed to be closed....

I wouldn't hold my breath about any changes, as I suspect he just said anything to get me off the phone, but I still think a massive letter writing and phone calling campaign would impress upon them the gravity of their faulty logic and poor decision making.

Aloha

Names and C&C email links would be helpful for such a campaign.

They are in charge of ALL the parks and don't seem to have even a fair idea about what each is capable of nor a general sense of what is actually involved in their "oversight".  I call that beareaucratic bloating to create positions within a government where unknowledgeable people do nothing to educate themselves to perform the function for which they are employed.....at taxpayer expense.

Anybody know if the rifle range will be open this week?

Yeah if any of you guys know if they'll be open tomorrow please let me know too, I was looking forward to doing some shooting on the rifle and pistol side.

right on HiCarry.  At the very least they know the public's frustration.  Most people would just drop it after their first "answer".  They probably just agreed with you to get you off the phone. 

I say we take all the affected organizations and go down to Kapolei. The pots been simmering a while, maybe its time to turn up the "Heat" on the range (pun intended! *paching*)

I would suggest that we ALL call, write or fax our City Council person for the district that we live in.

Lots of UnHappy VOTERS should get some kind of attention.

Maybe they should be invited to come out and actually Shoot a gun.

Experience the shooting complex(?) for the first time.

I would suggest that we ALL call, write or fax our City Council person for the district that we live in.

Lots of UnHappy VOTERS should get some kind of attention.

Maybe they should be invited to come out and actually Shoot a gun.

Experience the shooting complex(?) for the first time.

Send it to the parks and rec imo and CC the city council.

Thanks for the update HiCarry, it's interesting to see what some of the inner workings of the range are like.

A word of caution though........"he'd look at the manner the clubs essentially ran "their" ranges with little or no oversight from C&C staff"..........one could take this to mean that in the future the C&C could impose a rule that a staff member must be present (for oversight) of all club activities leading to added costs, potential shortages in staff might mean canceling events, or forcing clubs to abide by rules that the C&C has established for the handgun and rifle ranges (ammo cap of 5 rounds, no "quick" shooting, no shooting from holsters, etc.).

When people do conduct the write in campaign, these issues should be addressed prior to putting things out to them in writing.........once they are out, they cannot be retracted.  Your brief insight already shows how little the people in charge know or care how things run, what the people want, and they demonstrate the inability to remain professional when facing some minor challenges (talking to you on the phone).

Just an FYI so folks know who's running our range and how they make our decisions....I spoke to the interim director for the parks on the east side of Oahu...I wanted to know why they had closed the entire park when HPD had said they only needed to close the rifle and pistol areas. She was apologetic, but not in a very sincere way, i.e., "I'm sorry you didn't get to shoot on Saturday or Sunday" despite the fact I pointed out it was not I, per se, but the students I had scheduled for class that were the victims of the poor decision making. She also said they had to close the range because they needed to conduct an "internal" investigation and that everyone was being investigated so that left no one to supervise the range. I tried to explain that the clubs/organizations that ran the ohter shooting venues provided their own RSOs and supervision, but she said that despite that, someone needed to be there to oversee the general operations. So, I asked why the the acting Chief RSO, who was there Saturday and Sunday, couldn't provide this general oversight. She said he too was under investigation and therefore could not act in his "official" capacity. So, I asked why he was there and she said he was helping HFD and HPD in their investigation. "But" I said, if he's helping out HFD and HPD, isn't that acting in his official capacity and if indeed she felt he needed to be relieved of his official duties due to being under investigation, how could she condone him "assisting" HFD/HPD in the investigation? I also asked that if he was so relieved why wasn't someone else, possibly her, there assisting the investigators from HFD/HPD. At this point she bacame quite irate and screamed at me "I was there on my day off..." She also made many other comments that demonstrated that she was very unfamilar with the way the range operated and that she essentially didn't care that many of Hawaii's shooters, with no where else to shoot, either for pleasure of to comply with Hawaii's laws concerning handgun training and aquisition, were left with no where to shoot.

I also spoke to her boss...don't recall his name right now, and he too, while not as agitated and defensive, clearly showed little regard for the inconvenience they imposed on shooters. At one point, while trying to demonstrate why they didn't need to close down the entire range, I provided this ananology: If there was a structural issue with the roof on the rifle range but the remaining structures were deemed OK, would you need to close the range. His reply was "well, that's different. Now we're talking about a structural problem..." He also mentioned he was "getting tired of repeating himself" when explaining why they needed to close the entire range. I told him I was getting tired as well and that it was clear he wasn't really getting the issue at hand. He finally agreed that the decision to close the entire range was possibly a mistake and that they'd look at the manner the clubs essentially ran "their" ranges with little or no oversight from C&C staff to see if that,in the future, given another problem, that it would not necessarily automatically mean the entire range needed to be closed....

I wouldn't hold my breath about any changes, as I suspect he just said anything to get me off the phone, but I still think a massive letter writing and phone calling campaign would impress upon them the gravity of their faulty logic and poor decision making.

Aloha

I think a letter campaign is in order, not only on this issue, but also the other issues as well.  The poor upkeep of the place, the heavily reduced hours, the need for improved facilities.
Also, throw in a line for the range proposed on the west side.

I agree though that these statements be thought over very carefully.  We don't need more crazy restrictions and rules.

Did any one go today, was it open?