WWII Remington Model 11 "Military Riot Gun" (Read 8666 times)

Bunker

WWII Remington Model 11 "Military Riot Gun"
« on: October 27, 2015, 07:43:01 PM »
Haven't posted here in a while, so thought I’d post one of my shotguns for those interested in WWII shotguns. I have a few but this one is my favorite and I've owned it for more than a few decades. This one is a WWII Remington Model 11 "Military Riot Gun". The design was patented by Browning but Remington was the only manufacture that made these for the US military during WWII. This one was produced in 1943 and has all the correct factory acceptance markings and military inspector stamps/proofs.

I’m quite certain this one wasn’t used in combat. Although a WWII weapon the Model 11 “Riot Guns” were mostly used as Stateside guard weapons and not deployed in combat, so a lot of these show minimal wear and some were never used at all. Also, notice this riot gun doesn’t exhibit the typical features of a combat shotgun (e.g., provisions for bayonet, vented handguard, etc). The longer barreled Model 11s (26” and 30”) were often reconfigured and used for training aerial gunners. Also, some long barreled Model 11s resided in military gun clubs and were used for recreational shooting.

Press photo illustrating the application of the Model 11 in the turret trainer role. The caption reads: "Capt. Ammon McClellan shows a 9th Air Force gunner how to operate a mobile ball turret with which the new Havoc A-20 light bomber is equipped. This practice turret--set up on a skeet range in England where the 9th is based--mounts shotguns instead of the A-20's .50 combat guns which fire all around the clock."


This photo illustrates the utility of the shotgun in aerial gunnery training. Gunnery students at Laredo Army Air Field using a truck mounted version of the AN-M2 flexible mount with a shotgun in the bed of a Dodge. I don’t think this is a M11 but M11s and other shotguns were used for this purpose.


Skeet tower at Foster Field, Texas in the summer 1942.


A scarce Remington Model 11 shotgun with Cutts Compensator still in its cradle.  This one was auctioned several years ago starting at $12K…not sure what it eventually sold for.


Photos of my Model 11:


































 

dustoff003

Re: WWII Remington Model 11 "Military Riot Gun"
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2015, 07:48:44 PM »
Wow that's a beautiful shotgun thanks for sharing and the history lesson!

oldfart

Re: WWII Remington Model 11 "Military Riot Gun"
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2015, 09:10:51 PM »
Wow, that's somethin'!
Thanks for sharing!
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Tom_G

Re: WWII Remington Model 11 "Military Riot Gun"
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2015, 09:21:55 PM »
Sexy!!
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paka808

Re: WWII Remington Model 11 "Military Riot Gun"
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2015, 10:19:17 PM »
Beautiful firearm. :thumbsup:

mauidog

Re: WWII Remington Model 11 "Military Riot Gun"
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2015, 10:23:16 PM »
Didn't you make a mistake?

This belongs in the Classified forum .......    :thumbsup:
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

stangzilla

Re: WWII Remington Model 11 "Military Riot Gun"
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2015, 07:37:45 AM »
very nice!   :shaka:

macsak

Re: WWII Remington Model 11 "Military Riot Gun"
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2015, 07:42:44 AM »
Wow that's a beautiful shotgun thanks for sharing and the history lesson!

+1

what's the PJA on the stock for?
what's that logo?

Inspector

Re: WWII Remington Model 11 "Military Riot Gun"
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2015, 11:12:34 AM »
Not a big shotgun fan but that is beautiful!!!  :thumbsup:
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mauidog

Re: WWII Remington Model 11 "Military Riot Gun"
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2015, 11:28:18 AM »
+1

what's the PJA on the stock for?
what's that logo?

From what I found, that's "FJA".  The F is damaged by that gouge above the stamp.

It stands for Army inspector Col. Frank J. Atwood.

An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

Bunker

Re: WWII Remington Model 11 "Military Riot Gun"
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2015, 06:07:49 PM »
+1

what's the PJA on the stock for?
what's that logo?

Correct as mauidog pointed out…Frank J. Atwood commanded the Rochester Ordnance District in NY.  He was in charge of all military supplies in that territory and served in that capacity from June 1942 – March 1946.  So you’ll see that inspector stamp on several weapons during that period, most notably all Remington Rand and Ithaca M1911A1s.

The logo is the Ordnance Department Crossed Cannons cartouche.

808glocker

Re: WWII Remington Model 11 "Military Riot Gun"
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2015, 06:47:59 PM »
Awesome post and great history lesson!