Student Support for fired officer who dumped student (Read 3400 times)

eyeeatingfish

Student Support for fired officer who dumped student
« on: October 30, 2015, 02:46:04 PM »
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/student-walkout-backs-fired-deputy-at-sc-school/ar-BBmD3GJ?li=AAa0dzB&ocid=mailsignoutmd

"About 100 students at a South Carolina high school walked out of class briefly Friday to show support for a school resource officer fired after video showed him throwing an uncooperative black female student across the floor, according to local media and Twitter feeds."

I must say I am surprised and impressed at the student protesting the firing of the resources officer. A nice change of pace compared to other national stories where everyone is quick to condemn the police. Some of the protesters in the photos were black students as well.

Watching the video of the officer tossing the student does seem like it could be questionable, however little to no context is provided on the officer's reason for using force.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2015, 10:33:31 AM by eyeeatingfish »

PeaShooter

Re: Student Support for fired officer who dumped student
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2015, 06:10:24 PM »
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/10/28/sc-classroom-video-deputy-decision/74733620/

Lott said the deputy had the right to put his hands on the student, but that when he threw the girl across the room, that's when he violated training.

http://abc7.com/news/south-carolina-school-officer-fired-after-throwing-student-across-classroom/1055474/

"When you make an arrest of someone who does not have a weapon, you never let go of the subject. When he threw her across the room, he let go of her. That's what violates our policy," Lott said.
"She wasn't a danger at that point; she was just being non-compliant and disrespectful. You try to de-escalate a situation. And when you do have to put your hands on someone, there are other techniques we use."


People knowledgeable about the incident seem to agree that force was justified, just improperly or excessively applied. Although when I watched the video of the incident, it didn't look so bad to me. I didn't see the police officer throw her, and his hands only left her for the briefest of moments. Maybe there's a better video?




pj_benn

Re: Student Support for fired officer who dumped student
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2015, 06:49:43 PM »
any excuse to walk out of class

eyeeatingfish

Re: Student Support for fired officer who dumped student
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2015, 10:33:10 AM »
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/10/28/sc-classroom-video-deputy-decision/74733620/

Lott said the deputy had the right to put his hands on the student, but that when he threw the girl across the room, that's when he violated training.

http://abc7.com/news/south-carolina-school-officer-fired-after-throwing-student-across-classroom/1055474/

"When you make an arrest of someone who does not have a weapon, you never let go of the subject. When he threw her across the room, he let go of her. That's what violates our policy," Lott said.
"She wasn't a danger at that point; she was just being non-compliant and disrespectful. You try to de-escalate a situation. And when you do have to put your hands on someone, there are other techniques we use."


People knowledgeable about the incident seem to agree that force was justified, just improperly or excessively applied. Although when I watched the video of the incident, it didn't look so bad to me. I didn't see the police officer throw her, and his hands only left her for the briefest of moments. Maybe there's a better video?

I forgot to mention in my original post that some of the students protesting are actually black.

I have only seen the one video. But the video clearly shows that he does not throw her across the room, she moves a couple of feet from her beginning position at best.

One thing a lot of people do not realize is that when it comes to an officer facing resistance, the longer a period that a suspect resists, the more likelihood that both the officer and the suspect will be injured. So while it may have looked bad and excessive, an extended struggle would have been an increased risk for injury.

Then we still have a lack of information surrounding the incident.

It is possible he was in violation of the use of force policy for the department though.

pj_benn

Re: Student Support for fired officer who dumped student
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2015, 11:56:22 AM »
I forgot to mention in my original post that some of the students protesting are actually black.

I have only seen the one video. But the video clearly shows that he does not throw her across the room, she moves a couple of feet from her beginning position at best.

One thing a lot of people do not realize is that when it comes to an officer facing resistance, the longer a period that a suspect resists, the more likelihood that both the officer and the suspect will be injured. So while it may have looked bad and excessive, an extended struggle would have been an increased risk for injury.

Then we still have a lack of information surrounding the incident.

It is possible he was in violation of the use of force policy for the department though.
in the post that you quoted it says that his actions violated policy.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Student Support for fired officer who dumped student
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2015, 05:48:23 AM »
in the post that you quoted it says that his actions violated policy.

True, but his boss also claimed he threw her across the room, which video proves he didn't. Makes you wonder if the boss isn't just trying to avoid drama?

I am just speculating though as it is nearly impossible to write a use of force policy without some gray area.