Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees (Read 23580 times)

Kingkeoni

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #40 on: November 17, 2015, 10:08:20 PM »
The U.S. is actively at war with Syria and taking in their "refugees" (military personnel) and housing them on U.S. soil?

This is the single stupidest thing I've ever heard of in all of my life.
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

paka808

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #41 on: November 17, 2015, 10:30:37 PM »
 :thumbsup:
The U.S. is actively at war with Syria and taking in their "refugees" (military personnel) and housing them on U.S. soil?

This is the single stupidest thing I've ever heard of in all of my life.
yes sir :thumbsup:

eyeeatingfish

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #42 on: November 17, 2015, 10:32:11 PM »
Syrians have one of the worst IQ ratings in the world; barely floating around 80, which is about what someone with a learning disability has.

Syrians are some of the most illiterate people in the world, with 4 out of 5 women being completely illiterate, and nearly all of them not being able to speak English.

So tell me how they are going to fit in and contribute to a society where the local and indigenous population are already struggling as it is, along with thousands of homeless already on the streets with more added to their ranks everyday?


Out of all the people coming here, the Micronesians deserve to be here more than the Syrians. Why? Because our testing made many of their islands inhabitable, we poisoned hundreds if not thousands of Micronesians through radioactive drift, and at least we get 2,000,000 sqmi of the Pacific Ocean through the Compact of Free Associations treaty.

What does bringing in these Syrians offer us? Nothing but another potential terrorist attack and more burden on our system from people who shouldn't be coming here.

I cannot predict how Syrians will fare, I just know that the USA have gotten refugees and poor immigrants before who have turned out to be quite productive.

If we are going to say no to Syrians, then we should at least have an alternative solution right? Maybe I missed it but I haven't seen anyone against Syrians coming put out any viable alternative plan. What do we do with them? (not just the USA but Europe etc.)

Q

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #43 on: November 17, 2015, 11:08:08 PM »
I cannot predict how Syrians will fare, I just know that the USA have gotten refugees and poor immigrants before who have turned out to be quite productive.

If we are going to say no to Syrians, then we should at least have an alternative solution right? Maybe I missed it but I haven't seen anyone against Syrians coming put out any viable alternative plan. What do we do with them? (not just the USA but Europe etc.)

Alternative solution: Let other Arab states take them.

Oh wait, they don't want them.

Is that not telling you something when Arabs don't want Arabs from an Arab country?


2nd Alternative solution: Stop bombing Syria, let Assad and Putin do what they gotta do, and let the people of Syria fight for their own damn freedom and independence.

ren

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #44 on: November 18, 2015, 02:23:34 AM »
F*ckSyria .
#BlackLivesMatter
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Rocky

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #45 on: November 18, 2015, 09:22:30 PM »
Alternative solution: Let other Arab states take them.
Oh wait, they don't want them.
Is that not telling you something when Arabs don't want Arabs from an Arab country?
2nd Alternative solution: Stop bombing Syria, let Assad and Putin do what they gotta do, and let the people of Syria fight for their own damn freedom and independence.

Please see
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=21014.msg188739#msg188739
 :closed:
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Q

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #46 on: November 18, 2015, 11:25:33 PM »

Please see
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=21014.msg188739#msg188739
 :closed:

Actually, look at the original post; this post was up first, so it is the responsibility of the mods to merge all related topics into this one.

Inspector

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #47 on: November 19, 2015, 09:58:27 AM »
Enjoy!
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

pudgster

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #48 on: November 19, 2015, 12:33:21 PM »
I cannot predict how Syrians will fare, I just know that the USA have gotten refugees and poor immigrants before who have turned out to be quite productive.

If we are going to say no to Syrians, then we should at least have an alternative solution right? Maybe I missed it but I haven't seen anyone against Syrians coming put out any viable alternative plan. What do we do with them? (not just the USA but Europe etc.)

Do you get a reasonable alternative solution when your ccw application is denied?  :D

Rocky

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #49 on: November 19, 2015, 08:58:35 PM »
Actually, look at the original post; this post was up first, so it is the responsibility of the mods to merge all related topics into this one.

edit :  2nd Alternative solution: Stop bombing Syria, let Assad and Putin do what they gotta do, and Grow a pair and fix your problem, don't run away from it and become someone else's problem.  :wtf:[/b]
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #50 on: November 20, 2015, 10:30:01 AM »
I wonder if it would be feasible to do a lie detector test to all refugee applicants?

dustoff003

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #51 on: November 20, 2015, 11:45:29 AM »

I wonder if it would be feasible to do a lie detector test to all refugee applicants?

I have a test put a AK either assembled or disassembled out and see what they do with it, or you could have a simulated IED in the room and see how they react.

mauidog

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #52 on: November 20, 2015, 11:51:36 AM »
I have a test put a AK either assembled or disassembled out and see what they do with it, or you could have a simulated IED in the room and see how they react.

Monitor their blood pressure while showing them a collection of Charlie Hebdo cartoons of Muhammad.   :wacko:
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Q

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #53 on: November 20, 2015, 12:02:21 PM »
I wonder if it would be feasible to do a lie detector test to all refugee applicants?

Lie detectors are bullshit.

It is a tool used to coerce an individual into a confession, nothing more.

The only way to get solid intel is to have boots on the ground and eyes in the sky that are able to put them into the databases and biometric systems, which we can't do.

So either we leave them alone and let them fight their own damn war, declare war and wage total war, or make peace with them Japanese style.

Anything else is a waste of time.

Kingkeoni

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #54 on: November 22, 2015, 09:47:19 PM »
Do you get a reasonable alternative solution when your ccw application is denied?  :D

I have a reasonable alternative...

Turn your ass around and go back home. You're not welcome here.
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #55 on: November 26, 2015, 02:10:24 AM »
Lie detectors are bullshit.

It is a tool used to coerce an individual into a confession, nothing more.

The only way to get solid intel is to have boots on the ground and eyes in the sky that are able to put them into the databases and biometric systems, which we can't do.

So either we leave them alone and let them fight their own damn war, declare war and wage total war, or make peace with them Japanese style.

Anything else is a waste of time.

Lie detectors are not perfect but they are not BS.

The problem at hand is not what to do about Syria, it is what to do about the refugees. We cannot nuke the refugees.

Q

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #56 on: November 26, 2015, 02:43:49 AM »
Lie detectors are not perfect but they are not BS.

And you know this how? Are you former LEO? Were you trained in how to extract a confession? Please tell me how you know about this subject than I might  :popcorn:



The problem at hand is not what to do about Syria, it is what to do about the refugees. We cannot nuke the refugees.

Sure you can nuke them. Were all the Japanese in Hiroshima  and Nagasaki combatants?  Highly doubt it.

But we are all cool in 2015...not one Kamikaze since 1945  :geekdanc:

eyeeatingfish

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #57 on: November 26, 2015, 04:54:31 AM »
And you know this how? Are you former LEO? Were you trained in how to extract a confession? Please tell me how you know about this subject than I might  :popcorn:



Sure you can nuke them. Were all the Japanese in Hiroshima  and Nagasaki combatants?  Highly doubt it.

But we are all cool in 2015...not one Kamikaze since 1945  :geekdanc:

Because I have learned about them and I understand the basic science behind them. Feel free to explain how you know they are such BS yet multiple agencies use them.

Your suggestion about a nuclear option is so far outside the bounds of reality, I have to ask, you don't seriously consider that an option do you?

Q

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #58 on: November 26, 2015, 05:33:12 PM »
Because I have learned about them and I understand the basic science behind them. Feel free to explain how you know they are such BS yet multiple agencies use them.


Because I am former LEO, and was trained on how to use the lie detector as an interrogation technique in order to extract a confession from an individual whether they are guilty or not. By intimidating the individual being interrogated with the 'results', it is easier to extract a confession from them because of all the nonsense they show us in the movies and on television, that a lie detector is never wrong. Without an a voluntary or extracted confession, the test results are admissible in court. This is also why they cannot force you to take a lie detector test in court, because it is an inconsistent science and the results can be manipulated by both the interrogator or individual, or simply defeated by the individual with proper training.

The results of a 'trained interrogator' are just an opinion; they have no relevance to the case whatsoever, other than to provider further validation for tangible evidence already present.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #59 on: November 28, 2015, 10:19:09 PM »
Because I am former LEO, and was trained on how to use the lie detector as an interrogation technique in order to extract a confession from an individual whether they are guilty or not. By intimidating the individual being interrogated with the 'results', it is easier to extract a confession from them because of all the nonsense they show us in the movies and on television, that a lie detector is never wrong. Without an a voluntary or extracted confession, the test results are admissible in court. This is also why they cannot force you to take a lie detector test in court, because it is an inconsistent science and the results can be manipulated by both the interrogator or individual, or simply defeated by the individual with proper training.

The results of a 'trained interrogator' are just an opinion; they have no relevance to the case whatsoever, other than to provider further validation for tangible evidence already present.

I agree with you there, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it total BS. It isn't just smoke and mirrors, even if it has limitations.