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1911 guru's
« on: November 20, 2015, 07:52:31 PM »
Recently acquired a Colt Combat Commander 1911.
Took it out to the range a couple weeks ago.
First couple of mags were good, then failure to extract on second to last/last round.
Tried different mags and ammo with same results.
The extractor was pulled and inspected.(really fouled up)
Didn't notice anything real obvious.
Anybody willing to take a look and give advice?
« Last Edit: November 20, 2015, 07:58:03 PM by GreenStomper »
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Re: 1911 guru's
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2015, 09:00:23 PM »
Quote from: GreenStomper on November 20, 2015, 07:52:31 PM
Recently acquired a Colt Combat Commander 1911.
Took it out to the range a couple weeks ago.
First couple of mags were good, then failure to extract on second to last/last round.
Tried different mags and ammo with same results.
The extractor was pulled and inspected.(really fouled up)
Didn't notice anything real obvious.
Anybody willing to take a look and give advice?

Are you the first owner?  If not, any idea how used it was?
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Re: 1911 guru's
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2015, 09:12:43 PM »
Not the first owner.
According to Colt it was manufactured in 1981.
Previous owner did not know history.
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Tom_G

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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2015, 09:48:28 PM »
How many mags did you try?  Were they all the same brand?

Percentage-wise, how often was it the last round versus the next-to-last round?
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2015, 09:54:32 PM »
Quote from: mauidog on November 20, 2015, 09:00:23 PM
Are you the first owner?  If not, any idea how used it was?

are we still talking about his colt commander?
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2015, 10:22:51 PM »
Quote from: macsak on November 20, 2015, 09:54:32 PM
are we still talking about his colt commander?

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Re: 1911 guru's
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2015, 10:24:59 PM »
Quote from: mauidog on November 20, 2015, 10:22:51 PM


close, doug
but i don't have anywhere near that much hair
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Heavies

Re: 1911 guru's
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2015, 11:03:34 PM »
Might want to try this.

http://www.m1911.org/technic2.htm
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Re: 1911 guru's
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2015, 04:19:05 AM »
Quote from: GreenStomper on November 20, 2015, 07:52:31 PM
Recently acquired a Colt Combat Commander 1911.
Took it out to the range a couple weeks ago.
First couple of mags were good, then failure to extract on second to last/last round.
Tried different mags and ammo with same results.
The extractor was pulled and inspected.(really fouled up)
Didn't notice anything real obvious.
Anybody willing to take a look and give advice?
...
I know a little bit about 45 autos.
Let's get together. If we meet, I need to see all the ammo and magazines and spent shells too if you got them.
If using reloads, i need the load data too.
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Re: 1911 guru's
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2015, 08:51:53 AM »
Tom_G
Tried 5 different mags, all GI style. One stainless, the others steel Chip McCormick.
When issues first started it was last round, then consistently second to last round.

macsak
Yeah, no comment.
We are not talking about fleshlights here.

Heavies
Thanks, I already looked into the link and will further research.

oldfart
Various ammo was used from Aguila, RWS ,Federal, to what ever loose rounds I could find.
Did not keep spent shells.
Nope, not reloads.
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2015, 09:20:05 AM »
When it failed to extract on the next-to-last round, I assume the last round was stuck there, pressing against the spent round, the slide resting on it.  Yes?

What about when the last round failed to extract, did the slide lock back?
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Re: 1911 guru's
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2015, 09:35:24 AM »
You are correct on both accounts.
Second to last round resting on spent round in slide lock.

Last round, slide locks back. FTE
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2015, 09:36:22 AM »
disregard
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2015, 09:42:08 AM »
Quote from: GreenStomper on November 21, 2015, 09:35:24 AM
You are correct on both accounts.
Second to last round resting on spent round in slide lock.

Last round, slide locks back. FTE
...............
The empty shell is still fully in the chamber?
The slide locks back prematurely?
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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2015, 01:50:29 PM »
If I recall correctly (was clearing and reloading quickly) spent casing still fully seaed in chamber.
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« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2015, 02:39:26 PM »
Quote from: GreenStomper on November 21, 2015, 01:50:29 PM
If I recall correctly (was clearing and reloading quickly) spent casing still fully seaed in chamber.
...
This occurs multiple times? The case is still stuck in the chamber?
If such is the case, there is not a very quick method of clearing that.

Method 1 is to drop the mag and let the slide slam into battery and pray the claw will grab the rim and extract the case.
You could try it once, but if the problem repeats you could damage the extractor.

Method 2 is to drop the mag and pry the shell out with a knife or screwdriver

Method 3 would be to push the case out from the muzzle end with a rod.
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Re: 1911 guru's
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2015, 03:28:38 PM »
Had multiple malfunctions.
First time was drop the mag and turn over on its side-cleared.
Second time was drop the mag, rack the side a couple times and cleared.
After that, it was second to last round issues.
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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2015, 04:33:36 PM »
There's only a few reasons for malfunctions like yours.
Hard to explain in words. Drop by my house.
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Re: 1911 guru's
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2015, 04:46:36 PM »
Another forum member offered to take a look, will stop by I we can't figure it out.
Thanks for your words of advice and offer to help.
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Re: 1911 guru's
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2015, 07:53:34 PM »
Got it figured out.
Another adjusted extractor and it cycles snap caps.
No range time.... yet
Thanks to all who helped.
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