New Change in Firearm Paper Work at HPD (Read 228652 times)

HiCarry

Re: New Change in Firearm Paper Work at HPD
« Reply #260 on: December 03, 2015, 02:26:11 PM »
Question, is it not wrong for Kaiser to send a persons ENTIRE medical records over to HPD, when you sign a waiver the specifically says "...all records which have a bearing on my mental health..."?  Is that not a violation of medical privacy?

I am, not caught up in this madness, but am very concerned for the folks who are.

To everyone that is involved call up Mr. Holcomb whether you get your permit accepted or not.  Do not take a double standard of the rules and regulations required by this state, and at the whim of an anti gun provider, to exercise your rights.
You sign two releases: one for your medical history/records and one for your mental health history/records

Dumbgun

Re: New Change in Firearm Paper Work at HPD
« Reply #261 on: December 03, 2015, 03:04:10 PM »
HPD accepted my outside DR. note and I filed, the usual forms. I did have to get fingerprinted and photographed as well. They now have the camera mounted on wall next to window and fingerprint is done at the window. Except for the camera I get the sense that even the officer's do not like the new system.

I asked the officer if my outsides Dr. note is good forever or Would I have to get a new one for every handgun bought hereafter, with current date at time of application. He said no that was good for all future purchases. Be aware that may also change, For Kaiser patients when you sign the medical /mental forms list the DR. that reviewed the kaiser files.

I had to pay $130.00 for the DR. to do Kaisers job.

I am still deciding if I will join the lawsuit with MR. HOLCOMB. still looking at all my options before I commit to such a major battle.

tanakattack

Re: New Change in Firearm Paper Work at HPD
« Reply #262 on: December 06, 2015, 07:01:39 AM »
HPD accepted my outside DR. note and I filed, the usual forms. I did have to get fingerprinted and photographed as well. They now have the camera mounted on wall next to window and fingerprint is done at the window. Except for the camera I get the sense that even the officer's do not like the new system.

I asked the officer if my outsides Dr. note is good forever or Would I have to get a new one for every handgun bought hereafter, with current date at time of application. He said no that was good for all future purchases. Be aware that may also change, For Kaiser patients when you sign the medical /mental forms list the DR. that reviewed the kaiser files.

I had to pay $130.00 for the DR. to do Kaisers job.

I am still deciding if I will join the lawsuit with MR. HOLCOMB. still looking at all my options before I commit to such a major battle.

Yeah..  Better to wait till AFTER your rights are taken before you do something about it.

HiCarry

Re: New Change in Firearm Paper Work at HPD
« Reply #263 on: December 07, 2015, 09:26:34 AM »
If you are an HRA member and need a doctor to provide medical clearance to HPD (It will be a "real" evaluation so if you have a true disqualifying condition you won't get a clearance letter) please PM me.

Old Guy

Re: New Change in Firearm Paper Work at HPD
« Reply #264 on: December 07, 2015, 10:49:20 AM »
I really hope all the people having HPD problems here are Dues Paying Members of HRA and not Moochers of HRA's work.

Please remember that Hi Carry and other HRA members working behind the scenes are NOT being Paid by HRA.

They have Real jobs to pay their bills.

Without the work of the HRA, chances are Excellent, there would no 2A and Private ownership of any kind of firearms in Hawaii.

Something to think about.

Dumbgun

Re: New Change in Firearm Paper Work at HPD
« Reply #265 on: December 07, 2015, 03:51:53 PM »
I just got permission from DR. office. they are willing to do the review for firearms clearance.

1. Don't mention me, if theres a "secret squirrel" on this forum, I don't want you jamming it up for me and the DR. pulls his endorsement of me.

2. DR. is a real M.D. he is not rubber stamping. He will check you out.

3. Fee is $130. Cash or credit. When HPD took  my application, I asked, and the officer said that the DR. clearance is good for all future purchases. But who knows what they'll come up with next.

4. Have all your records. Kaiser (at least one year) to include the standard no drug/mental letter. Obtainable at dole canary 2nd floor across theatre parking lot the one with the skywalk. I misplaced the number so you have to look it up. Anita will take
    care of you.

5. Bring your gun safety affidavit. I even brought my permits from Aug 2104, a rifle and pistol, to show I was legal. if you have your long gun permit thats dated as to when you was last cleared. All this will help. Just bring everything you have gun related.

6. I went thru 11 DR's  this was only one who was willing to do the review. DO NOT FUCK  IT UP FOR ME!, or others who need a non Kaiser review. Im supposed to get my permit and pistol on 12/17. After that I don't care.

DR. Lu FIATOA M.D.
MANA Medical Center
(808) 200-3305
94-307 Farrington HWY., B01
Waipahu. Hi 96797

mauidog

Re: New Change in Firearm Paper Work at HPD
« Reply #266 on: December 07, 2015, 04:29:06 PM »
I just got permission from DR. office. they are willing to do the review for firearms clearance.

1. Don't mention me, if theres a "secret squirrel" on this forum, I don't want you jamming it up for me and the DR. pulls his endorsement of me.

2. DR. is a real M.D. he is not rubber stamping. He will check you out.

3. Fee is $130. Cash or credit. When HPD took  my application, I asked, and the officer said that the DR. clearance is good for all future purchases. But who knows what they'll come up with next.

4. Have all your records. Kaiser (at least one year) to include the standard no drug/mental letter. Obtainable at dole canary 2nd floor across theatre parking lot the one with the skywalk. I misplaced the number so you have to look it up. Anita will take
    care of you.

5. Bring your gun safety affidavit. I even brought my permits from Aug 2104, a rifle and pistol, to show I was legal. if you have your long gun permit thats dated as to when you was last cleared. All this will help. Just bring everything you have gun related.

6. I went thru 11 DR's  this was only one who was willing to do the review. DO NOT FUCK  IT UP FOR ME!, or others who need a non Kaiser review. Im supposed to get my permit and pistol on 12/17. After that I don't care.

DR. Lu FIATOA M.D.
MANA Medical Center
(808) 200-3305
94-307 Farrington HWY., B01
Waipahu. Hi 96797

You sound angry and paranoid.  Perhaps we should email Dr. Lu Fiatoa about that?

 :rofl:
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

Dumbgun

Re: New Change in Firearm Paper Work at HPD
« Reply #267 on: December 08, 2015, 03:10:02 AM »
You sound angry and paranoid.  Perhaps we should email Dr. Lu Fiatoa about that?

 :rofl:
Nope and nope. email who you want.

beekeeping1341

Re: New Change in Firearm Paper Work at HPD
« Reply #268 on: December 08, 2015, 12:08:41 PM »
This bullshit is still happening at HPD. Two people were just turned away for not having their docter at straub or kaiser type up some letter. I'm still in this far too long line waiting to apply for my handgun permit and I'm hoping they don't have my doctor? In the military have to type up a letter.
I sure as hell don't need a permit to choose my religion, so why the hell do I need a permit to acquire a firearm?

Q

Re: New Change in Firearm Paper Work at HPD
« Reply #269 on: December 08, 2015, 12:16:39 PM »
This bullshit is still happening at HPD. Two people were just turned away for not having their docter at straub or kaiser type up some letter. I'm still in this far too long line waiting to apply for my handgun permit and I'm hoping they don't have my doctor? In the military have to type up a letter.

I think for now it only applies to Kaiser and Straub patients; you are TriCare.

If they do turn you away, I suggest you contact Mr. Holcomb IMMEDIATELY.

His number is somewhere on this thread.

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Re: New Change in Firearm Paper Work at HPD
« Reply #270 on: December 09, 2015, 12:02:07 AM »
I got my dr.s note Jan of this year and I have to renew my rifle permit, does it still suffice? Or do I need to pay another 100+ just to get my permit. This is nonsense!

Q

Re: New Change in Firearm Paper Work at HPD
« Reply #271 on: December 09, 2015, 12:39:20 AM »
I got my dr.s note Jan of this year and I have to renew my rifle permit, does it still suffice? Or do I need to pay another 100+ just to get my permit. This is nonsense!

I think it's good for a year.

If they turn you away, ask them to point out in the firearms policy where it states that your letter isn't good for a year, or that it needs to be renewed every year.

If they continue to give you shit, contact Mr. Holcomb; his number is somewhere on this thread.

GOLDdealer

Re: New Change in Firearm Paper Work at HPD
« Reply #272 on: December 09, 2015, 09:51:43 AM »
Dr. John Hunter MD. 8085423969
Will review your medical for suitability to possess firearms

bikercarl

Re: New Change in Firearm Paper Work at HPD
« Reply #273 on: December 09, 2015, 08:47:32 PM »
"Aloha,

We only require that Kaiser inform the HPD investigators in writing or fax if you have or have not been diagnosed and/or treated or counseled for any one or more of the following:

Drug or Alcohol Addiction/Abuse/Dependence

Behavioral/Emotional/Mental Disorders

Organic Brain Syndrome

Kaiser has chosen to release Kaiser clients entire medical file to the HPD investigators.   HPD investigators are not medically trained to determine any or the above listed disorders.

The above is happening because that it is what the release asks for that HPD hands you if you are a Straub or Kaiser member. If they were to send a specific (like above) request, perhaps the outcome would be different.

Aloha All,

Has anyone been successful with a Kaiser letter to written to this effect?  Please update us if you were/not successful.  Mahalo in advance for sharing with us in these stressful times!

Mahalo and Malama!
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Re: New Change in Firearm Paper Work at HPD
« Reply #274 on: December 10, 2015, 08:19:41 AM »
I wonder if insurance will cover as a check-up?

I just got permission from DR. office. they are willing to do the review for firearms clearance.

1. Don't mention me, if theres a "secret squirrel" on this forum, I don't want you jamming it up for me and the DR. pulls his endorsement of me.

2. DR. is a real M.D. he is not rubber stamping. He will check you out.

3. Fee is $130. Cash or credit. When HPD took  my application, I asked, and the officer said that the DR. clearance is good for all future purchases. But who knows what they'll come up with next.

4. Have all your records. Kaiser (at least one year) to include the standard no drug/mental letter. Obtainable at dole canary 2nd floor across theatre parking lot the one with the skywalk. I misplaced the number so you have to look it up. Anita will take
    care of you.

5. Bring your gun safety affidavit. I even brought my permits from Aug 2104, a rifle and pistol, to show I was legal. if you have your long gun permit thats dated as to when you was last cleared. All this will help. Just bring everything you have gun related.

6. I went thru 11 DR's  this was only one who was willing to do the review. DO NOT FUCK  IT UP FOR ME!, or others who need a non Kaiser review. Im supposed to get my permit and pistol on 12/17. After that I don't care.

DR. Lu FIATOA M.D.
MANA Medical Center
(808) 200-3305
94-307 Farrington HWY., B01
Waipahu. Hi 96797
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Re: New Change in Firearm Paper Work at HPD
« Reply #275 on: December 10, 2015, 08:28:49 AM »
Write to these State Reps They are Pro 2A:

Ken Ito and Ty Cullen
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Re: New Change in Firearm Paper Work at HPD
« Reply #276 on: December 10, 2015, 09:55:27 AM »
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I really hope all the people having HPD problems here are Dues Paying Members of HRA and not Moochers of HRA's work.

Please remember that Hi Carry and other HRA members working behind the scenes are NOT being Paid by HRA.

They have Real jobs to pay their bills.

Without the work of the HRA, chances are Excellent, there would no 2A and Private ownership of any kind of firearms in Hawaii.

Something to think about.
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

jerry_03

Re: New Change in Firearm Paper Work at HPD
« Reply #277 on: December 10, 2015, 11:17:11 AM »
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For the people that are concerned, if you applied prior to yesterday, the new changes do not affect you.

just to clarify, hpd confirms this?

can confirm. I have kaiser too and I applied for my pistol permit prior to 11/23 and was able to pick it up on Monday no problem.

However I will be applying for a new pistol permit next week and we'll see if HPD asks for a letter. ( I already have a letter from an outside doctor but its from earlier this year, so we'll see if HPD will still honor it)

hepcat96821

Re: New Change in Firearm Paper Work at HPD
« Reply #278 on: December 10, 2015, 01:19:26 PM »
I just checked with HPD firearms division.  Apparently this letter from your physician can be used as much as need be for one year.  So you will not be required to see a doctor everytime you purchase a handgun with that years time.  that being said, this is still rubbish

Gordyf

Re: New Change in Firearm Paper Work at HPD
« Reply #279 on: December 10, 2015, 02:36:12 PM »
Write to these State Reps They are Pro 2A:

Ken Ito and Ty Cullen

Sam Kong Dist 33 Aiea says he is one of us too!
Aloha
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