I just checked with HPD firearms division.  Apparently this letter from your physician can be used as much as need be for one year.  So you will not be required to see a doctor everytime you purchase a handgun with that years time.  that being said, this is still rubbish

But did thy give you that in writing, or did you record the conversation?

HPD is known to change it's procedure on a day to day basis.

Nothing in writing, just a conversation over the phone....  no recordings either

Nothing on this since 12/11??
Have we caved and accepted it as fait accompli?
I have not needed to get a permit, mine is good til August, but where is this going.  I will have to go through the motions then, and I have Kaiser.
Have not been without a PTA since 1994 and am a C&R
We gotta keep beating the drums in this lest it drop into the recycle bin of "old News"
Then they win and we don't want that.
Aloha

Nothing on this since 12/11??
Have we caved and accepted it as fait accompli?
I have not needed to get a permit, mine is good til August, but where is this going.  I will have to go through the motions then, and I have Kaiser.
Have not been without a PTA since 1994 and am a C&R
We gotta keep beating the drums in this lest it drop into the recycle bin of "old News"
Then they win and we don't want that.
Aloha

This subject has split off into several other threads, including whether one can change from Kaiser insurance.

We should get the HRA and the NRA on this.

We should get the HRA and the NRA on this.

HRA is attempting work on this, NRA probably not as of yet.

Update: HPD accepted my letter with the altered wording because I picked up my new long gun permit today.

So, now I think I'll contact Mr. Holcomb and see what my legal options are. The $150 I had to pay to get this letter is complete bullshit.

Edit: talked to Mr. Holcomb's paralegal(?) and he said that since I was accepted I don't really fit the type of person they needed on any litigation. They took down my contact info. and said they'll call me if need be.

Going in the morning to get a handgun permit, will return with a report (although I fear it will be the same as everyone else with Kaiser/Straub...I have Kaiser)

Just came from HPD. Today was my pick up day. DENIED. Do not use the DR. I recommended. HPD objected to the wording. Even though they accepted it the first time, The officer said an Officer Ah sing tried to call and inform me of problem, I call bull shit! I keep phone on an with me at all times. No missed call or voice mail. I made the usual arguments, to SGT. R. JAEGER to no avail. Trying to get DR. GREENLEY to review.  This springfield 1911 is turning out to be the most expensive gun I have ever bought.

To any 2A members who was there between 10:30-11:00am. That was me losing it, not too off the rails I think. Not so much asshole, more of a douchery attitude.

Just came from HPD. Today was my pick up day. DENIED. Do not use the DR. I recommended. HPD objected to the wording. Even though they accepted it the first time, The officer said an Officer Ah sing tried to call and inform me of problem, I call bull shit! I keep phone on an with me at all times. No missed call or voice mail. I made the usual arguments, to SGT. R. JAEGER to no avail. Trying to get DR. GREENLEY to review.  This springfield 1911 is turning out to be the most expensive gun I have ever bought.

To any 2A members who was there between 10:30-11:00am. That was me losing it, not too off the rails I think. Not so much asshole, more of a douchery attitude.

Wait...why were you turned away for the most recent letter? Was it because it didn't have the exact wording as the template they provide?

Yup, The last time I went the Officer took the letter, said it was good for all future purchases. Filled the normal paper work, Turned in  paperwork officer took fresh fingerprint and took picture. pointed to pick up dates, So I went today to get permit. officer behind window said needed to get it in exact wording as printed there on HPD form letter. small snap on officer. referred me to SGT. JAEGER, He played his song and did his dance. In a nutshell its not HPD, its kaiser. Hell! I even told the officer to run his rap and warrant check with my permission and I would pay for it.

So trying to get Appt. with DR. G. Mailed my medical records, outside DR. letter and HPD provided toilet paper. also The Kaiser letter stating that I have no drug or mental history. Receptionist said he won't be able to see me until January, providing he will even see me.

Im running $300.00 in the hole here. Thats a quarter the price of the pistol. Not counting the USMC EGA grips I ordered in anticipation.

Still deciding if I'm staying in this half ass california wannabe chicken/bullshit state. If I stay I will join Holcomb's lawsuit and go all in for CCW.

Yup, The last time I went the Officer took the letter, said it was good for all future purchases. Filled the normal paper work, Turned in  paperwork officer took fresh fingerprint and took picture. pointed to pick up dates, So I went today to get permit. officer behind window said needed to get it in exact wording as printed there on HPD form letter. small snap on officer. referred me to SGT. JAEGER, He played his song and did his dance. In a nutshell its not HPD, its kaiser. Hell! I even told the officer to run his rap and warrant check with my permission and I would pay for it.

So trying to get Appt. with DR. G. Mailed my medical records, outside DR. letter and HPD provided toilet paper. also The Kaiser letter stating that I have no drug or mental history. Receptionist said he won't be able to see me until January, providing he will even see me.

Im running $300.00 in the hole here. Thats a quarter the price of the pistol. Not counting the USMC EGA grips I ordered in anticipation.

Still deciding if I'm staying in this half ass california wannabe chicken/bullshit state. If I stay I will join Holcomb's lawsuit and go all in for CCW.

Yes, Dr. Greenly does get back logged. I'm also weary that he may become an over-tapped resource and also refuse to help us if people keep having to redo their letters.

Yup, The last time I went the Officer took the letter, said it was good for all future purchases. Filled the normal paper work, Turned in  paperwork officer took fresh fingerprint and took picture. pointed to pick up dates, So I went today to get permit. officer behind window said needed to get it in exact wording as printed there on HPD form letter. small snap on officer. referred me to SGT. JAEGER, He played his song and did his dance. In a nutshell its not HPD, its kaiser. Hell! I even told the officer to run his rap and warrant check with my permission and I would pay for it.

So trying to get Appt. with DR. G. Mailed my medical records, outside DR. letter and HPD provided toilet paper. also The Kaiser letter stating that I have no drug or mental history. Receptionist said he won't be able to see me until January, providing he will even see me.

Im running $300.00 in the hole here. Thats a quarter the price of the pistol. Not counting the USMC EGA grips I ordered in anticipation.

Still deciding if I'm staying in this half ass california wannabe chicken/bullshit state. If I stay I will join Holcomb's lawsuit and go all in for CCW.

Sorry to hear this. I turned in my letter with ALTERED wording and they accepted it - just picked up my long gun permit renewal yesterday. This is such a clusterfuck. How can HPD accept my letter, which ISN'T verbatim with their template, but then reject yours?

Maybe the difference is in hand gun and long gun? 

Maybe the difference is in hand gun and long gun?

That would make no sense. You're mentally sound enough to purchase long guns but no handguns?

That would make no sense. You're mentally sound enough to purchase long guns but no handguns?

it's compounded when most of these folks being denied already have multiple guns of both types already.

Maybe the difference is in hand gun and long gun?

Denied both. Like most gun owners I simply apply both and pick up both after the two week wait. In fat the officers usually ask if you want to apply for both to save you the time and trip. so as usual applied for both. The DR. letter I submitted states that there is no evidence of drug or alcohol addiction/abuse/dependence. Behavioral/emotional/mental disorders. No organic brain syndrome.

They gave me back the copies they had. one yellow sticky. with the permit # G228625 and a ? on status. with (L) (H). the other sticky has. Same permit number, and ask sarge.

My theory is  some city attorney is trying to make a name for himself, by cracking down on violent gun deaths in hawaii, for his future bid on becoming city prosecutor/mayor/fovernor.

Denied both. Like most gun owners I simply apply both and pick up both after the two week wait. In fat the officers usually ask if you want to apply for both to save you the time and trip. so as usual applied for both. The DR. letter I submitted states that there is no evidence of drug or alcohol addiction/abuse/dependence. Behavioral/emotional/mental disorders. No organic brain syndrome.

They gave me back the copies they had. one yellow sticky. with the permit # G228625 and a ? on status. with (L) (H). the other sticky has. Same permit number, and ask sarge.

My theory is  some city attorney is trying to make a name for himself, by cracking down on violent gun deaths in hawaii, for his future bid on becoming city prosecutor/mayor/fovernor.

maybe a future chief of police trying to look tough on gun owners.

oops! forgot about that dreamer.

If we can find out who implemented the new policy, well know who is viewing for the title of #1

Just requested kgmb do a story on the matter. Doubt they'll report it, with star wars and all. Every local channel showed a reporter talking to R2D2. No C3PO, probably because he's a gun owner? Hmmmm?