If an officer undergoes three months of mental health treatment at the Hawaii State Hospital, is the officer authorized to carry a firearm? 

http://www.staradvertiser.com/hawaii-news/video-of-police-beating-gets-replay/?1i

Too bad the seal didn't f' him up. I don't think he deserved the beat down though, if it was me I'd have let him walk away or waited for other officers to come and the arrest him.

How's this one last night on HNN 10 o'clock news it was reported that both an HPD officer and a HFD fireman both returned drug test results positive for marijuana. Then they both produced medical marijuana cards and were given a pass and then told that they could not participate in medical marijuana usage. WTF if I popped positive for marijuana I'd loose my job.

Too bad the seal didn't f' him up. I don't think he deserved the beat down though, if it was me I'd have let him walk away or waited for other officers to come and the arrest him.

How's this one last night on HNN 10 o'clock news it was reported that both an HPD officer and a HFD fireman both returned drug test results positive for marijuana. Then they both produced medical marijuana cards and were given a pass and then told that they could not participate in medical marijuana usage. WTF if I popped positive for marijuana I'd loose my job.

Agreed. The guy was definitely being an ass, but once he left the area it should've been "Mission Accomplished". Unfortunately brutality by the police seems to be on the rise here. Like the off duty cop that beat and choked out the truck driver he got into an accident with recently. The same guy had already been in trouble for beating two burglary suspects that later turned out to be innocent. I'm hearing more and more stories like this.

As far as the marijuana usage, phtt, I'd rather see them pop positive for that than meth. The only things I've ever seen endangered by marijuana are Twinkies and Dorito's. Doesn't make them breaking the law right though.

How's this one last night on HNN 10 o'clock news it was reported that both an HPD officer and a HFD fireman both returned drug test results positive for marijuana. Then they both produced medical marijuana cards and were given a pass and then told that they could not participate in medical marijuana usage. WTF if I popped positive for marijuana I'd loose my job.

I may be getting a bit forgetful in my old age, but did I not sign a paper when I last applied for a permit that stated I was not a medical maryjane user?, nor would I transfer my piece to one?
Seems to me it was a disqualifier.
I know the Sheriffs have to go through the motions, cause I stood in line with one, in uniform. but do the Police?? Fireman of course is different. They don't carry guns
Just wondering

I may be getting a bit forgetful in my old age, but did I not sign a paper when I last applied for a permit that stated I was not a medical maryjane user?, nor would I transfer my piece to one?
Seems to me it was a disqualifier.
I know the Sheriffs have to go through the motions, cause I stood in line with one, in uniform. but do the Police?? Fireman of course is different. They don't carry guns
Just wondering

You sign one paper stating the BATFE's policy on medical marijuana and then on the HPD paper that you have to initial the blocks on the right hand side there is a question about drug usage/addiction can't remember if it specifically says marijuana or not though. Yes it's a disqualifying factor. Question 11. e. On the ATF form 4473 will get you to, https://www.atf.gov/file/61446/download

If an officer undergoes three months of mental health treatment at the Hawaii State Hospital, is the officer authorized to carry a firearm? 

http://www.staradvertiser.com/hawaii-news/video-of-police-beating-gets-replay/?1i

I believe the Rice, the guy who harassed the monk seal, was the person who spent 3 months at the Hawaii State Hospital...Not the officer.

From the Star Advertiser article-

Rice, meanwhile, was unable to post $15,000 bail to get out of custody while his criminal case was pending. During his time in custody, the court ordered him to undergo two mental examinations and sent him to the Hawaii State Hospital for three months for mental health treatment.

The use of force in this video was an interesting one in that it was not a rodney king style beating with someone apparently taking out rage. This officer appeared calm, used the force until the guy went down, then calmly put away his baton. He also aimed for the safe target zones instead of hitting the guy's head or back. I am wondering if the officer just made a judgement mistake on levels of force?

I wouldn't say it is an open and shut case of brutality though. There are some factors that we don't know that does make a difference.

One.... It's a seal.  It's a animal.  too bad human beings are not more often more zealously protected.   The guy didn't have a club to beat it to death.
Two...  The guy looks retarded or something, in any case he wasn't all there..
Three.... see what happens when these greepeace loons get loose.

In any case bad decisions all around.

JMHO

Looks like we've gone from clubbing seals

to clubbing humans who get too close to seals.

Amazed humans aren't already extinct.

 

Looks like all ming wang knows how to do is escalate the situation. No need call back-up. That's the answer to everything, escalate until they are are unconscious or dead. Bravo ming. Bravo.

That guy was way less dangerous than other crazy homeless people I've seen around Ala Moana and north shore harassing people and I don't see them getting oc sprayed and beat down by the cops.

Looks like all ming wang knows how to do is escalate the situation. No need call back-up. That's the answer to everything, escalate until they are are unconscious or dead. Bravo ming. Bravo.

That guy was way less dangerous than other crazy homeless people I've seen around Ala Moana and north shore harassing people and I don't see them getting oc sprayed and beat down by the cops.

In all fairness, you don't know whether he called for backup. Since the dialogue of the officer and subject are not audible we really don't know what was said. We also don't know if there is any history with the subject either.

Agreed. The guy was definitely being an ass, but once he left the area it should've been "Mission Accomplished". Unfortunately brutality by the police seems to be on the rise here. Like the off duty cop that beat and choked out the truck driver he got into an accident with recently. The same guy had already been in trouble for beating two burglary suspects that later turned out to be innocent. I'm hearing more and more stories like this.

As far as the marijuana usage, phtt, I'd rather see them pop positive for that than meth. The only things I've ever seen endangered by marijuana are Twinkies and Dorito's. Doesn't make them breaking the law right though.

While I could personally care less about him testing positive for marijuana, it is a matter of fairness and transparency. In the annual AG's report for firearms there is always, at least recently, at least one individual that was denied a PTA because of medical marijuana use. If "we" can't have firearms because of legal medical marijuana use, neither should any government agent, regardless of who they are.

While I could personally care less about him testing positive for marijuana, it is a matter of fairness and transparency. In the annual AG's report for firearms there is always, at least recently, at least one individual that was denied a PTA because of medical marijuana use. If "we" can't have firearms because of legal medical marijuana use, neither should any government agent, regardless of who they are.

Agreed. Equal application of the law to everyone.