Tonight 5pm KGMB/KHNL Mileka LINCOLN:Reports on Kaiser/HPD denials (Read 23494 times)

brian96744

Re: Tonight 5pm KGMB/KHNL Mileka LINCOLN:Reports on Kaiser/HPD denials
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2015, 09:05:12 PM »
On tv now. 9pm news

Dumbgun

Re: Tonight 5pm KGMB/KHNL Mileka LINCOLN:Reports on Kaiser/HPD denials
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2015, 09:13:41 PM »
Overall good report.

Part that wasn't good was them showing the forum and saying that the policy is making people lie about their insurance provider ( if they have Kaiser)
The lie I was referring to is The wording that HPD wants us to admit that we are no" longer adversely affected" or that I was under treatment for the listed disorders they want the DR's to sign off on. Remember they edit it  for the broadcast. I have never been addicted or had mental problems or organic brain disorders. I have never sought treatment or been asked or ordered to seek such treatment.

Dumbgun

Re: Tonight 5pm KGMB/KHNL Mileka LINCOLN:Reports on Kaiser/HPD denials
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2015, 09:23:33 PM »
nice belt!

seriously, i like what you said at the end and i appreciate the fact that the news crew ended with that statement
it reflected well upon you and the rest of the gun community
bravo!
Fanny pack, Im always forgetting wallet, keys the damn phone. iIpack all my stuff so I'm ready for the next days business. I do wear a displayed fixed blade. I pointed out to reporter that I display it so if police stop me and the officer doesn't like my "attitude", he can't say I had a concealed weapon. Used to carry both a letterman and gerber multitool, both, pulled my pants down.Nobody in the news office asked me to remove it. they took video of me wearing it. Like I said they edited it and used what they wanted.

Dumbgun

Re: Tonight 5pm KGMB/KHNL Mileka LINCOLN:Reports on Kaiser/HPD denials
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2015, 09:34:12 PM »
+1
Thank you Dumbgun for representing us on the news.
Thanks! I showed them the permits for my Glock 42 and Ruger 10/22. They took pictures and I thought they would use it. I wanted to establish a time line and show That gun owners are not all about the biggest baddest, scariest guns. So the last two guns I bought with no bs from kaiser or HPD were the .380 and 22LR.

I even pointed out that even though HPD wouldn't accept kaiser patients seeking new pistol permits. My long gun permit was valid and I could of still went and bought a black scary assault weapon,

mauidog

Re: Tonight 5pm KGMB/KHNL Mileka LINCOLN:Reports on Kaiser/HPD denials
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2015, 09:41:42 PM »
Thanks! I showed them the permits for my Glock 42 and Ruger 10/22. They took pictures and I thought they would use it. I wanted to establish a time line and show That gun owners are not all about the biggest baddest, scariest guns. So the last two guns I bought with no bs from kaiser or HPD were the .380 and 22LR.

I even pointed out that even though HPD wouldn't accept kaiser patients seeking new pistol permits. My long gun permit was valid and I could of still went and bought a black scary assault weapon,

A lot of the pain caused by the new policies could be minimized if we could get the law changed to not require permits for existing gun owners.

It makes no sense to expect someone who can't get a permit due to medical issues would go through the process and risk having his existing guns confiscated.  I think an annual long gun permit would satisfy the periodic background re-check and eliminate unnecessary pistol permits.  They would still do the registrations as always, but we could then use the long gun permit to buy handguns as well.

Maybe that bill will be reintroduced this year?  Let's hope so.
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

GlockNewb

Re: Tonight 5pm KGMB/KHNL Mileka LINCOLN:Reports on Kaiser/HPD denials
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2015, 09:50:18 PM »
Thank you Dumbgun! You've honored the 2a community with your professionalism on camera and your advocacy. I pray that this issue will be resolved quickly.
"Fast is slow, slow is smooth, smooth is fast."

matt0137

Re: Tonight 5pm KGMB/KHNL Mileka LINCOLN:Reports on Kaiser/HPD denials
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2015, 10:46:46 PM »
Nice job Dumbgun.

Q

Re: Tonight 5pm KGMB/KHNL Mileka LINCOLN:Reports on Kaiser/HPD denials
« Reply #27 on: December 18, 2015, 10:53:55 PM »
Part that wasn't good was them showing the forum and saying that the policy is making people lie about their insurance provider ( if they have Kaiser)

Didn't see a reason showing the forum was a bad thing, but I do agree about people saying they should lie on their applications.

In that case, they should have shown the post and all the responses that followed, which they didn't.

dogman

Re: Tonight 5pm KGMB/KHNL Mileka LINCOLN:Reports on Kaiser/HPD denials
« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2015, 10:56:32 PM »
Just watched the video on the link Q posted earlier, good job Dumbgun  :thumbsup:

sheenobi

Re: Tonight 5pm KGMB/KHNL Mileka LINCOLN:Reports on Kaiser/HPD denials
« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2015, 11:01:31 PM »
Thank you 2-gun Dumbgun
We all know what you did for all of us.

TastesLikeMetal

Re: Tonight 5pm KGMB/KHNL Mileka LINCOLN:Reports on Kaiser/HPD denials
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2015, 11:03:43 PM »
I did my best not to look like gun nut, nobody else would step up so I did. So hold negative comments to yourself. I had to rush around to meet her and do interview. No prep time was asked questions on the spot. She seemed to think the whole fiasco was senseless her self. SO she said she had to have someone go on camera because it would be on tonight at 5PM.

Semper Fi

Nice job dude.

Kingkeoni

Re: Tonight 5pm KGMB/KHNL Mileka LINCOLN:Reports on Kaiser/HPD denials
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2015, 11:41:23 PM »
Someone needs to file law suits against both HPD and Kaiser.

Making them pay out millions for infringement of constitutional rights should be incentive enough to change their policy.
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

Q

Re: Tonight 5pm KGMB/KHNL Mileka LINCOLN:Reports on Kaiser/HPD denials
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2015, 12:12:42 AM »
Someone needs to file law suits against both HPD and Kaiser.

Making them pay out millions for infringement of constitutional rights should be incentive enough to change their policy.

Baker vs Kealoha, going on 4 years later....

Q

Re: Tonight 5pm KGMB/KHNL Mileka LINCOLN:Reports on Kaiser/HPD denials
« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2015, 01:30:56 AM »
It's official:

Dumbgun isn't getting any of the good stuff from Santa this year.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Tonight 5pm KGMB/KHNL Mileka LINCOLN:Reports on Kaiser/HPD denials
« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2015, 01:39:56 AM »
Decent news story and a good job on the interview!

oldfart

Re: Tonight 5pm KGMB/KHNL Mileka LINCOLN:Reports on Kaiser/HPD denials
« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2015, 06:48:10 AM »
Good job!
Anybody know if kitv did the story too?
What, Me Worry?

Gordyf

Re: Tonight 5pm KGMB/KHNL Mileka LINCOLN:Reports on Kaiser/HPD denials
« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2015, 08:33:45 AM »
+1
Thank you Dumbgun for representing us on the news.

Yeah, from me too. You have done well.
Gordy
Aloha
Gordy

aieahound

Re: Tonight 5pm KGMB/KHNL Mileka LINCOLN:Reports on Kaiser/HPD denials
« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2015, 09:08:54 AM »
It's official:

Dumbgun isn't getting any of the good stuff from Santa this year.



He should be ok as long as he doesn't live in "Santa's" neighborhood at the North Pole.  :rofl:

He's welcome in my neighborhood anytime.  :shaka:

rustyeleio

Re: Tonight 5pm KGMB/KHNL Mileka LINCOLN:Reports on Kaiser/HPD denials
« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2015, 10:21:44 AM »
Good job dumbgun!  You gave a good sense of reasonable frustration.  Awsome. :thumbsup:

Glad they didn't skew the story to the left.

All_rice

Re: Tonight 5pm KGMB/KHNL Mileka LINCOLN:Reports on Kaiser/HPD denials
« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2015, 10:32:32 AM »
Just watched from the link provided.  Thanks Dumbgun for stepping up!
Land of the free, because of the Brave!