Just watched Pureta en banc (Read 7051 times)

suka

Just watched Pureta en banc
« on: December 19, 2015, 03:49:03 PM »
Watched the whole 1 hour en banc hearing from June.

Boy, those judges are really tough on both parties.

I believe the final ruling won't come out till after the election.



« Last Edit: December 19, 2015, 06:14:13 PM by suka »

Drakiir84

Re: Just watched Pureta en banc
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2015, 10:28:39 AM »
Yeah I watched it back in June, thought it was going to be terribly anti-gun until the state presented their "case".  Generally the decisions come down after 6-9 months, a year and a half would be pretty extreme.
"The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized."
-Jeff Cooper

suka

Re: Just watched Pureta en banc
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2015, 11:07:22 AM »
same here , I didn't like the State guy!
The one judge was drilling his ass.

monster796

Re: Just watched Pureta en banc
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2015, 12:27:54 PM »
Where do we watch it at? Thanks!

suka

monster796

Re: Just watched Pureta en banc
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2015, 07:10:53 AM »
Just watched it as well. The guys defending California are ridiculous. Hope CA losses. 

suka

Re: Just watched Pureta en banc
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2015, 04:31:09 PM »
Amicus Brief as submitted by the State of Hawaii in Pureta.

Territory of Hawaii
Small Arms Act of 1927

Act 206 Section 7



http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/general/2015/01/05/10-56971%20Amicus%20by%20State%20of%20Hawaii.pdf
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suka

Re: Just watched Pureta en banc
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2015, 04:38:44 PM »
Act 206 Section 7


the application of any person having a bona fide residence or place
of business within the juristridiction of said licensing authority, or of any person having a b’ona fide residence or place of business with-.
in the United States, and a license to carry a pistol or reclover , concealed  upon his person or to carry one elsewhere than in his home
‘or office said license being issued by the authorities of any other state or
political sübdivisioñ of the United States
, issue a license to such person to carry a pistol or revolver within this territory elsewhere
than in his home or office,  for not more than ‘one year from date of issue, ...........
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suka

Re: Just watched Pureta en banc
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2015, 07:13:34 PM »

Entire
SECTION 7
Issues of licenses to carry. The judge of a court
of recotd or the sheriff of a county or city and county, shall, upon.
the application of any person having a bona fide residence or place
of business within the jurisdiction of said licensing authority, or of
any person having a bona fide residence or place of business with-.
in the United States, and a license to carry a pistol or revolver
concealed upon his person or to carry one elsewhere than in his home
or office, said license being issued by the authorities of any State or
political subdivision of the United States, issue a license to such person to carry a pistol or revolver within this territory elsewhere
than in his home or office, for not more than ‘one year from date of issue, if it appears that the applicant has good reason to ‘fear an injury’, to his person or property, or has any other proper reason for carrying a pistol or revolver, and that he is a suitable person to be so licensed. ‘The license shall, be in triplicate, in form to be prescribed by the treasurer of the territory, and ,shall bear the name, address, description and signature of the licensee and the reason ‘given for desiring a license. The original thereof shall be delivered to the licensee; the duplicate shall .within seven days, be ‘sent by registered mail, to the treasurer of the territory and the
triplicate shall be preserved for six years by the authority issuing said license.
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Jared

Re: Just watched Pureta en banc
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2016, 07:41:21 PM »
Entire
SECTION 7
Issues of licenses to carry. The judge of a court
of recotd or the sheriff of a county or city and county, shall, upon.
the application of any person having a bona fide residence or place
of business within the jurisdiction of said licensing authority, or of
any person having a bona fide residence or place of business with-.
in the United States, and a license to carry a pistol or revolver
concealed upon his person or to carry one elsewhere than in his home
or office, said license being issued by the authorities of any State or
political subdivision of the United States, issue a license to such person to carry a pistol or revolver within this territory elsewhere
than in his home or office, for not more than ‘one year from date of issue, if it appears that the applicant has good reason to ‘fear an injury’, to his person or property, or has any other proper reason for carrying a pistol or revolver, and that he is a suitable person to be so licensed. ‘The license shall, be in triplicate, in form to be prescribed by the treasurer of the territory, and ,shall bear the name, address, description and signature of the licensee and the reason ‘given for desiring a license. The original thereof shall be delivered to the licensee; the duplicate shall .within seven days, be ‘sent by registered mail, to the treasurer of the territory and the
triplicate shall be preserved for six years by the authority issuing said license.


Do you have a link to the entirety of Act 206? I'd like to read it. I looked online but I couldn't find it?

It appears Hawaii used to be shall issue and the license used to be valid statewide (territory wide).

I wonder when they went to May issue and I also wonder when they only allowed for the permits to be valid countywide instead of being valid statewide.

suka

Re: Just watched Pureta en banc
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2016, 07:52:11 PM »
I presume that only the paper version would exsist in the States archives.

This is the reason on my next application to carry. As it was submitted official by the Attorny General of Hawaii to the en banc.

London808

Re: Just watched Pureta en banc
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2016, 12:46:44 AM »
I also wonder when they took the power away from the sheriff and only allowed the corporate police force to issue them.
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

Jared

Re: Just watched Pureta en banc
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2016, 04:47:09 AM »
I also wonder when they took the power away from the sheriff and only allowed the corporate police force to issue them.

When Hawaii became a state, they dissolved towns and county sheriff's. The sheriff is now a state agency and there are only county governments .


I also wonder when open carry was restricted.