Ruger American Rimfire vs. CZ 455 Tacticool (Read 17391 times)

asinapple8805

Ruger American Rimfire vs. CZ 455 Tacticool
« on: December 23, 2015, 01:35:23 PM »
I'm looking for opinions on these two rifles chambered in .22 LR.

I know that they're not really in the same price range, but I think i could justify spending the extra coin if the differences warranted it.

one thing i like about the Ruger is that it uses the 10/22 10-round mags.  I like that they sit flush and that I already have a few of them.  At the same time, I don't like how the mags stick out of the CZ.

That CZ is pretty damn accurate though, and i haven't seen a bad review yet.

I might even consider a Savage Mark II FV-SR too.

aieahound

Re: Ruger American Rimfire vs. CZ 455 Tacticool
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2015, 02:13:37 PM »
I don't know about the Ruger and the CZ but the Savage FV-SR. is plenty accurate. And threaded barrel to boot.

Trigger is adjustable and clean.
Stock sucks. Need a cheek riser and feels like cheap plastic. I don't know why they would design a stock with such a low cheek weld. IMO.
But that said I love mine.

And savage mags are not the best. Not terrible just not like a 10/22 mag.

We should set up a 22 day at the range.

stangzilla

Re: Ruger American Rimfire vs. CZ 455 Tacticool
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2015, 02:57:34 PM »

asinapple8805

Re: Ruger American Rimfire vs. CZ 455 Tacticool
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2015, 02:58:40 PM »
I don't know about the Ruger and the CZ but the Savage FV-SR. is plenty accurate. And threaded barrel to boot.

Trigger is adjustable and clean.
Stock sucks. Need a cheek riser and feels like cheap plastic. I don't know why they would design a stock with such a low cheek weld. IMO.
But that said I love mine.

And savage mags are not the best. Not terrible just not like a 10/22 mag.

We should set up a 22 day at the range.

How much did you pick up your FV-SR for?

you should get this one:
http://www.ruger.com/products/americanRimfireDE/specSheets/8334.html

Whoa.  That's cool.  That totally changes things.  How do i look up other distributor exclusives under the Ruger American Rimfire line?

macsak

Re: Ruger American Rimfire vs. CZ 455 Tacticool
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2015, 03:05:15 PM »
Whoa.  That's cool.  That totally changes things.  How do i look up other distributor exclusives under the Ruger American Rimfire line?

http://www.ruger.com/products/americanRimfireDE/models.html

stangzilla

Re: Ruger American Rimfire vs. CZ 455 Tacticool
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2015, 03:55:57 PM »

Whoa.  That's cool.  That totally changes things.  How do i look up other distributor exclusives under the Ruger American Rimfire line?

those were only limited production
but you could get one brought in to your FFL
http://www.internetguncatalog.com/Default.aspx?tabid=179

I want one myself. 

CZ and Savage are excellent choices as well.  i'm just a Ruger fan, so I'm biased.   :D

Lihikai

Re: Ruger American Rimfire vs. CZ 455 Tacticool
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2015, 04:27:58 PM »
I shot a friend's Ruger American Rimfire recently and I liked it.  The trigger was a little spongy, but this is to be expected in this price range.  The action was fairly smooth and the rifle shot fairly well with CCI SV.  I think he said he paid under $400, but I'm not sure.

asinapple8805

Re: Ruger American Rimfire vs. CZ 455 Tacticool
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2015, 04:37:41 PM »
after looking it up, I'm pretty sold on the Ruger 8334.  Now the question is, if i were to bring it in, sell the OD green stock, do you think that someone would buy it?

Heavies

Re: Ruger American Rimfire vs. CZ 455 Tacticool
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2015, 04:48:09 PM »
CZ, tackdriver out of the box.  trigger meh.  You can "work" on them though. 

Ruger, not as accurate, 10/22 mag is a plus. 

Savage, tackdriver as well, trigger is better, out of the box, than most, mags SUCK. 




Or can run with a scope



@ 50 yards with iron sights.

K30l4

Re: Ruger American Rimfire vs. CZ 455 Tacticool
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2015, 06:04:53 PM »
Check out 841's shootout between some great 22lr rifles.

Watch "22lr Rifle Shootout Anschutz 64 MPR vs CZ American 455" on YouTube

Inspector

Re: Ruger American Rimfire vs. CZ 455 Tacticool
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2015, 07:06:23 AM »
...We should set up a 22 day at the range.
I'm down for that!!!!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

aieahound

Re: Ruger American Rimfire vs. CZ 455 Tacticool
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2015, 07:33:46 AM »
How much did you pick up your FV-SR for?

It's $285 at KGS.
I think I got mine for $265 from Daniel a while ago.
And the mags do suck. But they work.

http://www.kaneohegs.com/inventory_rifles.htm

I'm down for that!!!!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Set it up inspector.
I got a couple different Savages and a Remington 597 with trigger upgrade.
We can probably get a bunch of different models out there.
Test drive day for everyone.

asinapple8805

Re: Ruger American Rimfire vs. CZ 455 Tacticool
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2015, 11:54:46 AM »
I put an order in for the Ruger 8334.  we'll see what it's like when it gets here

stangzilla

Re: Ruger American Rimfire vs. CZ 455 Tacticool
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2015, 01:11:00 PM »
I put an order in for the Ruger 8334.  we'll see what it's like when it gets here

nice!   :geekdanc:

stangzilla

Re: Ruger American Rimfire vs. CZ 455 Tacticool
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2015, 01:14:54 PM »
it should look a lot like my RAR Predator  in .308


asinapple8805

Re: Ruger American Rimfire vs. CZ 455 Tacticool
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2015, 01:19:45 PM »
How much did you pay for that 308?

stangzilla

Re: Ruger American Rimfire vs. CZ 455 Tacticool
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2015, 01:24:13 PM »
How much did you pay for that 308?

was about $450 out the door after tax, shipping, and FFL and everything.
not too bad for a .308

i would love to get that one you ordered in .22 so i can do practice training with it.

stangzilla

Re: Ruger American Rimfire vs. CZ 455 Tacticool
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2015, 05:06:55 PM »
I put an order in for the Ruger 8334.  we'll see what it's like when it gets here

Definitely give us an update after you get it and shoot it

asinapple8805

Re: Ruger American Rimfire vs. CZ 455 Tacticool
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2016, 06:51:48 PM »
Definitely give us an update after you get it and shoot it

Here's the update.  the 8334 came in.  I didn't know this, but i guess the guys on rimfire central have nicknamed this special edition model the "Ruger American Rimfire Predator" or the "RAR Predator.

anyway, i got a chance to go to the range.  I put some rounds down the tube with the following different makes of ammo, and in the following order:

Blazer - 40 grain Round Nose - 1235 fps
Federal Automatch - 40 grain Round Nose - 1200 fps
CCI Standard Velocity - 40 grain Lead Round Nose - 1070 fps
CCI Minimag - 40 grain Copper Plated Round Nose - 1235 fps
CCI Subsonic - 40 grain Lead Hollow Point - 1050 fps
Federal HV Match - 40 grain Round Nose - 1200 fps
CCI Quiet 22 - 40 grain Round Nose - 710 fps
American Eagle (high velocity) - 40 grain - 1240 fps

I shot 5 shot groups from a bench at KHSC using a bipod and a rear bag.  I'll post a pic of my groups below.  The gun was sighted in for 50 yards with Blazer on bullseye.  Note that the CCI Standard Velocity had a pretty tight group.  I could cover the centers of all 5 shots with a Dime (with all marks easily covered with a Quarter), but they were really far below my point of aim.

Also note that I didn't run the bore snake through between groups.  I kind of just jumped between the different ammo makes, one after another, without much of a break.  I wasn't trying to take my time, but the barrel didn't get very hot.  it was a mild warm to the touch.  The bore was pretty filthy by the time I was done.

I downloaded the rifle targets off of Midway <https://media.midwayusa.com/pdf/downloads/rifle_target.pdf> .  the gray centers are just about 1 inch in diameter (there's a little bit of black ring showing when you place a Quarter over it).

the rifle itself is pretty awesome.  the barrel is free floated from the factory.  the trigger is adjustable from 3 lbs to 5 lbs and is pretty crisp, but keep in mind that i'm not a trigger snob so take my opinion for what it's worth.  Ruger says that the gun can be dry fired, so i definitely spent some time getting used to it while i was watching tv the night before.  also, the trigger itself is pretty easy to work on.  I followed some DIYs on rimfire central and snipped some coils off of the trigger spring.  I'm not sure how heavy the trigger is now, but it's somewhere between 2 and 3 lbs if i were to guess.  I snipped off one coil from the trigger safety spring and one coil from the trigger main spring.  After the trigger job, i reassembled the rifle and slammed the butt of the stock against the ground a few times.  the trigger didn't accidentally discharge so i think that it's still decently safe after the mods.

I really like the look of the medium contoured barrel.  It measures just about 0.721" in diameter at the area right before the muzzle threads.  The bolt handle is enlarged and seems pretty easy to manipulate.  the mags fall free after pressing the mag release, so that's nice.  The stock cheekpiece seems to put my eye right where i want it to be when mounting my 40mm objective scope as low as possible.  My only gripe right now is that the length of pull is a little too long with the supplied LOP/cheek riser piece.  I'm having a hard time mounting the scope far enough back to get proper sight picture.  I think i'd need to go with the shorter piece, or go with a scope that allows about 4 inches worth of eye relief.




for comparison purposes, here's a group i also shot on the same day with a 10/22 that my dad built.  it has some minor trigger work done to it, a nice laminate thumbhole stock, and a Tac Sol aluminum barrel.  this is a 5 shot group with Blazer (not taking my time too much) using the KHSC rest and a rear bag.  The measured difference between the two groups is negligible (less than 0.010 inches difference).

« Last Edit: January 11, 2016, 01:22:41 PM by asinapple8805 »

Heavies

Re: Ruger American Rimfire vs. CZ 455 Tacticool
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2016, 07:20:08 PM »
try some Wolf MT or SK standard plus!  Nice!