LOL!  Thanks 2aH!

Izanagi, sorry if you are having some issues with your neighbors but don't take it out on us.

ha.  <loving> mods deleted the posts.

blah blah rights, blah blah freedom, blah blah constitution.  All <loving> full of <good>.

<loving> hypocrites.

Just taking care of some of the language. Have a good day -2aH

I hope one day you realize, we aren't laughing with you .....

 

Attack in Jakarta today. Practically everyone on that island is Muslim and they had it cleaned up in 3 hours with only one Canadian and a cop as casualties. If they could only find five guys to carry out an attack in one of the most dense populations on earth that that shows pretty clearly that ISIS is definitely way outside of the Muslim mainstream, so the chances of a tiny Manoa mosque being full of sympathizers is next to nil.

Attack in Jakarta today. Practically everyone on that island is Muslim and they had it cleaned up in 3 hours with only one Canadian and a cop as casualties. If they could only find five guys to carry out an attack in one of the most dense populations on earth that that shows pretty clearly that ISIS is definitely way outside of the Muslim mainstream, so the chances of a tiny Manoa mosque being full of sympathizers is next to nil.

Very true. The only problem is that it only takes one...

Attack in Jakarta today. Practically everyone on that island is Muslim and they had it cleaned up in 3 hours with only one Canadian and a cop as casualties. If they could only find five guys to carry out an attack in one of the most dense populations on earth that that shows pretty clearly that ISIS is definitely way outside of the Muslim mainstream, so the chances of a tiny Manoa mosque being full of sympathizers is next to nil.

Really? Do you personally know what these people believe? Do you know each and every person from that mosque? Can you be sure with absolute certainty that NONE of them are sympathizers? Have you personally seen each and every member openly denounce isis and/or other islam based terrorist groups?

Till you can answer those questions, I will not take your word for it.

Really? Do you personally know what these people believe? Do you know each and every person from that mosque? Can you be sure with absolute certainty that NONE of them are sympathizers? Have you personally seen each and every member openly denounce isis and/or other islam based terrorist groups?

Till you can answer those questions, I will not take your word for it.

I agree.  Until someone speaks or acts to reveal themselves, you have no way of knowing how far up or down on the "Radicalization" scale anyone is, not just current Muslims.   We've had non-Muslim Americans being radicalized to go fight with or support the "rebels" (ISIS) in Syria.

You can't make broad assumptions that Muslims are not radicalized due to lack of participation in terrorism any more than you can assume all Muslims are radical terrorists.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/hawaii-news/fbi-terror-case-aided-by-hawaii-muslims/

Well they already helped catch at lest one crackpot. If anything they have shown themselves to be the kind of place that radicals would want to avoid.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/hawaii-news/fbi-terror-case-aided-by-hawaii-muslims/

Well they already helped catch at lest one crackpot. If anything they have shown themselves to be the kind of place that radicals would want to avoid.

Anyone can throw some meat to the wolves to throw off the scent.

You completely avoided my previous post because you know you can't actually answer those questions, which means you can't guarantee NONE of the people in that mosque are potentially radicalized or sympathizers.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/hawaii-news/fbi-terror-case-aided-by-hawaii-muslims/

Well they already helped catch at lest one crackpot. If anything they have shown themselves to be the kind of place that radicals would want to avoid.

Whatever the Muslim Association did was very ambiguous.  "Great contributions to Law Enforcement" could be an exaggeration for PR purposes. The descriptions about their involvement were very general, glowing terms. 

Since the suspect was on the No Fly list and was arrested for activities while a New York resident, planning to try and join the Taliban, he was obviously already in the FBI's radar.  No one "turned him in".

Seems more like a fluff piece for the local Muslim Association.  The actual crimes seem to be his making false statements to Law Enforcement connected with his attempts to travel to the Middle East.

I'd be more impressed if they turned him in for plotting to blow up the Arizona Memorial.

I'd be more impressed if they turned him in for plotting to blow up the Arizona Memorial.

I'd be impressed when they hold a press conference and openly denounce any and all terrorist organizations, and state that they do not represent islam and that they embarrass their religion.

There's nothing wrong with being a little paranoid as long as you keep things in perspective. We have the NSA fusion center in Wahiawa and we're on one of the most militarized places on earth. Can't even surf the base as a civilian any more without having the wrinkles on your sphincter counted. This is the place where Ed Snowden blew the lid off the conspiracy to illegally record our phone calls and listen to our emails. I'm pretty sure nothing major is going to happen unless it's some kind of false flag or state-sponsored act of war, and even if a couple loonies get loose it's not like they can kill us all.

There's nothing wrong with being a little paranoid as long as you keep things in perspective. We have the NSA fusion center in Wahiawa and we're on one of the most militarized places on earth. Can't even surf the base as a civilian any more without having the wrinkles on your sphincter counted. This is the place where Ed Snowden blew the lid off the conspiracy to illegally record our phone calls and listen to our emails. I'm pretty sure nothing major is going to happen unless it's some kind of false flag or state-sponsored act of war, and even if a couple loonies get loose it's not like they can kill us all.

Imagine one lone radical taking a rental SUV to Waikiki one busy night.  How many people could he run over before being cornered by HPD.  It could happen all over the island, somewhere that there isn't a police station/substation nearby. 

Something similar just happened in Las Vegas.One dead and 3 dozen wounded.  I'm sure many of the injuries could have been life-threatening.

It doesn't have to be guns and bombs and beheadings.  It could be a guy taking a helicopter tour who hijacks the craft and has enough training to find his target and crash into it -- maybe one of our many military sites, or the state capital.

When it comes to terrorism, we have to think outside the box.  It's not paranoia to imagine all the ways you are vulnerable.  You may not be able to guard against it all, but to say you are sure nothing major will happen here is a bit on the "que sera sera" side of preparedness.

Imagine one lone radical taking a rental SUV to Waikiki one busy night.  How many people could he run over before being cornered by HPD.  It could happen all over the island, somewhere that there isn't a police station/substation nearby.

I guess no one likes my Costco as a target concern....

Whew, I guess we can tell all the JTTF guys in Hawaii to stand down as far as Hawaii is concerned and there is no need to monitor anyone anymore here locally in the islands.  They can now strictly focus efforts in other areas of the pacific rim.  Their intel is wrong as some from 2AH have it figured out.   

I guess no one likes my Costco as a target concern....

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Moral of story, be aware of guys in trench coats in Hawaii.
Especially in Costco.

Do you guys really think posting these ideas is a smart thing to do?   

If someone borrows the idea and follows through with one of your posts, you might get a knock on your door.

If the terrorists post on social media that they got the idea from 2ahawaii, think what the public would say about us gun folks.  You can say goodbye to our gun rights in this statist place.

I guess no one likes my Costco as a target concern....

Too much pork and alcohol there to worry ....

 

Do you guys really think posting these ideas is a smart thing to do?   

If someone borrows the idea and follows through with one of your posts, you might get a knock on your door.

If the terrorists post on social media that they got the idea from 2ahawaii, think what the public would say about us gun folks.  You can say goodbye to our gun rights in this statist place.

Then I guess TV shows, movies and the news need to censor these scenarios, so terrorists don't get bright ideas.

Imagine the backlash if someone saw the Paris attacks on the news and tried that again in, say, San Bernardino or Jakarta!  Boy, would that be bad!

If they blame Hollywood, nothing will happen. These guys are liberal central.

But if blame 2aHawaii, I bet you something will happen.

I'm not for censoring speech.  I'm just asking you guys to exercise some prudence in what you post.  Remember when the media was making reference to tosh.0 during one of the last terrorist attack and how the comments were supposedly encouraging it?