HPD Officers Beat Up? (Read 4355 times)

Rocky

HPD Officers Beat Up?
« on: January 15, 2016, 07:16:10 AM »
Kaneohe Neighborhood Board No. 30

December 2015 Minutes

DRAFT REGULAR MEETING MINUTES
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 17, 2015
BENJAMIN PARKER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CAFETERIA

Honolulu Police Department (HPD) – Lieutenant John Vines reported the following:...
• November 2015 Statistics ...

Comments followed:
6. HPD Officers – Ben Baniaga raised a concern about the three (3) separate incidents where police officers  were beat up and asked why they did not have back up.  :wtf:
Lieutenant Vines will follow up. Baniaga commented that he would like to see each squad car with two (2) officers in them.
Lieutenant Vines noted that the community will only see two (2) officers in a car during training because HPD presence is needed elsewhere.  :wacko:

http://www.honolulu.gov/component/acymailing/archive/view/mailid-2058.html?key=xSDUT34K&subid=2047-NuW3lSNvpJ94YE&tmpl=component&Itemid=1511&utm_source=newsletter_2058&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=kaneohe-nb-december-minutes

Anybody know more about this ?


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Surf

Re: HPD Officers Beat Up?
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2016, 08:42:58 AM »
What would you like to know?

Assaults on police officers is not that uncommon.

Backup can be based on several things such as initial manpower and availability of officers during the shift.  While priority 1 calls for service require more than one officer being sent, the reality is that there may be no one else available within the sector or sometimes even within the district, so response times for backup can be quite delayed.  Some officers might be on cases others may be off the road for booking, court, etc...  officers may have a lack of backup or a delay in backup for similar reasons in which the public may also experience a delay in service response times.  Generally officers will drop whatever to respond to an officer needs assistance call, but of course they have to hear the call for assistance to begin with.  If they are off the road or very occupied with another call for service they may not hear it.  Sometimes officers are assaulted and are unable to call for assistance until after the initial incident has occurred.   

The HPD is short staffed in just about every single district to begin with.  In several districts it is very rare that sectors are completely staffed.  The norm is solo units and pretty much has always been that way.  When they reference only two person vehicles as being training they are referencing the FTO program, where new officers get post academy training riding with a training officer before they go solo.  Why not add more officers?  Well tell the City about it as there is no budget for it.  The HPD is about ~300 officers under normal manpower.  That is the reality of it. 

Rocky

Re: HPD Officers Beat Up?
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2016, 09:55:22 AM »
   What I meant by "Anybody know more about this ?" was where, when, why (responding to domestic, burglary, DUI (aka 11-31)  injury, arrest and other.``

We are all well aware (or should be) of HPD's current status and protocol, so please FOCUS on the things we were'n told but if someone has first hand knowledge or news from reliable sources.
 :shaka:
« Last Edit: January 15, 2016, 12:56:02 PM by Rocky »
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Surf

Re: HPD Officers Beat Up?
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2016, 10:53:03 AM »
   What I meant by "Anybody know more about this ?" was where, when, why (responding to domestic, burglary, DUI, 11-31)  injury, arrest and other.

We are all well aware (or should be) of HPD's current status and protocol, so please FOCUS on the things we were'n told but if someone has first hand knowledge or rnews from reliable sources.
 :shaka:
Sorry about the explanation, but it seems painfully clear that much of the "status or protocol" of the HPD is greatly misunderstood or flat out an unkown to many people and 2A Hawaii is no different.

What is an 11-31?  I know what it generally means for some agencies but I don't want to assume anything.  It is not a code designation used by The HPD.   

suka

Re: HPD Officers Beat Up?
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2016, 11:19:08 AM »
$500,000 can hire a new class to fill vacancies.

Rocky

Re: HPD Officers Beat Up?
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2016, 12:54:58 PM »
Sorry about the explanation, but it seems painfully clear that much of the "status or protocol" of the HPD is greatly misunderstood or flat out an unkown to many people and 2A Hawaii is no different.

What is an 11-31?  I know what it generally means for some agencies but I don't want to assume anything.  It is not a code designation used by The HPD.   
Sorry, it needed parenthesis after "DUI"
Is used by HPD
11-31 is a standard pd code for "Drunk Driving" (DUI)
for BI PD is "crime in progress"
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eyeeatingfish

Re: HPD Officers Beat Up?
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2016, 05:15:36 PM »
"officers were beat up" is kind of vague. If you look at injury statistics it could be that they suffered injury arrested a suspect but not that they were necessarily "beat up"

1 cop per car is pretty standard nationwide except for some very large cities.