What is this 2 week clock thing?

So let me try and wrap my head around things.  If I ship my guns with my household goods, I can take your class on just the Hawaii state laws portion while my stuff is in transit, then rgister them upon their arrival with all my documentation.  Or if needed, I can get a whole "Hawaii" class while awaiting arrival of my stuff to satisfy HPD.  And this is just for handguns or for any firearm?

I knew there were plenty of reasons I left the islands prior to July '94.

You are nuking this out just a tad too much.

let me try and spell this out for you..... IF YOU SHIP YOUR GUNS IN HOUSEHOLD GOODS YOU DO NOT NEED A CLASS TO REGISTER THEM (ANY OF THEM AS LONG AS THEY ARE HAWAII LEGAL). 
IF YOU FLY THEM IN YOUR LUGGAGE, NO CLASS REQUIRED.



YOU NEED THE "CLASS"  TO obtain FIREARMS FROM A DEALER IN OR FROM OUTSIDE OF THE STATE (FFL) OR PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL (IN OR OUT OF STATE).     

If you fly back to whereever you came from to visit and buy a gun, you can bring it in an go register it, no class required.


Simple? I thought so.

The 2-week clock is for a Permit to Acquire from an FFL. The process goes like this:

1) You go to the Gun Shop and get the information of the firearm (you would have that already so you can skip this step)
2) You go to the Firearms Division and apply for a Permit to Acquire, this is several forms (to include a form to allow them to research your medical history)
3) The guy behind the counter tells you to come back in 2 weeks to pick up your Permit (this gives them time to conduct their "background check")
4) 2 weeks later, you go back to the Firearms Divsion and pick up your Permit to Acquire
5) Take your Permit to the FFL, pay the FFL transfer fee, and take your firearm
6) Bring your firearm BACK to the Firearms Division and wait in line to Register the firearm
(NOTE: You will need a Permit to Acquire for EVERY handgun that you have transferred through an FFL)

http://www.honolulupd.org/info/gun134-2.htm

OR, you could just send them through your HHG or bring them on the plane (which is REALLY REALLY EASY) and avoid all of that hassle. How many guns are you bringing? It seems like bringing them on the plane is by far the easiest and fastest way to go in your situation.

- Alex

I highly recommend using one of the alternatives (HHG or bringing with you on the plane) which doesn't involve you "acquiring" a firearm in Hawaii.  If you brought them on the plane, or in your household goods, no proof of training is needed.  You just take the guns to HPD within 72 hours and register them.  Piece of cake.  You just walk up to the window and say, "I brought these with me from out of state, and I need to register them.  They write down some serial numbers, print you like a perp, do a background check, and then let you go on your merry way with your guns because, surprise, a legal gun owner isn't a felon. 

The other method is where you have guns shipped to an FFL, which means you're "acquiring" them.  That requires formal training and a permit.  Once approved for the permit, you have to endure the ludicrous two week waiting period, then you get your permit.  Then you go pick up your permit and jump throught the BS hoops that Alex detailed.  I haven't purchased any guns out here, and I intend to delay that for as long as I possibly can, for all the reasons Alex listed.  Good luck!

I'm doing this ahead of time so that I can plan accordingly.  My planning will also determine what I bring and what stays here in storage.  For handguns I will be bringing my P228 (I'll leave my hicaps here and get some 10 rounders at some point), P225 and P232.  My P226, SP2022 and P220 will be stored.  For long guns, I'm considering my Winchester 70, AR and possibly my H&R Tamer, the rest will be stored.  Pics have been posted in the Picture thread.  I have a Pelican 1720 for my AR and will be getting additional cases for the rest.

I'm doing this ahead of time so that I can plan accordingly.  My planning will also determine what I bring and what stays here in storage.  For handguns I will be bringing my P228 (I'll leave my hicaps standard caps (fixed it for you) here and get some 10 rounders at some point), P225 and P232.  My P226, SP2022 and P220 will be stored.  For long guns, I'm considering my Winchester 70, AR and possibly my H&R Tamer, the rest will be stored.  Pics have been posted in the Picture thread.  I have a Pelican 1720 for my AR and will be getting additional cases for the rest.

I'm doing this ahead of time so that I can plan accordingly.  My planning will also determine what I bring and what stays here in storage.  For handguns I will be bringing my P228 (I'll leave my hicaps here and get some 10 rounders at some point), P225 and P232.  My P226, SP2022 and P220 will be stored.  For long guns, I'm considering my Winchester 70, AR and possibly my H&R Tamer, the rest will be stored.  Pics have been posted in the Picture thread.  I have a Pelican 1720 for my AR and will be getting additional cases for the rest.

If you have any questions, you can PM and I will pass you my number so you can call. I have shipped via household goods, on the plane, and via FFL.  Never an issue.

Interested in selling that P225? 

- Alex

I think you are getting confused between registration and permits to acquire. Quite honestly, it confused me at first.

Registration: required for all firearms that you own within 72 hours of coming in to posession or arriving in the state.

Permits to Acquire: State permission to buy a firearm. Needed if you want to purchase a new firearm here on the islands. One required for each handgun. The long gun permit is good for as many long guns as you want to purchase within a one year period.

The classes you are talking about are only a requirement for a Handgun Permit to Acquire.

Hopefully that clears up all the questions about that.

One question I saw earlier was about shipping firearms in and the time period for that. If you want to ship your long guns in via USPS registered mail, you will have no problem when your guns arrive. Actually you will be surprised at how long it takes and probably call the post office to see WTF is going on Your package will take 2-4 weeks as it is signed for at each hand off on the way.

ETA: Oops, missed this whole last page and was answering a previous question. Muh bad

Interested in selling that P225? 

- Alex

No, but they pop up on SigForum in the classifieds often enough.  I bought it with 4 mags and an IWB holster and have added TruGlo TFO's to it.

Thanks for the answers guys.  I've got a little digesting to do and part of my problem is that I don't have a date of travel yet.

Quote from: Alex Europa on October 24, 2011, 07:34:44 PM

Interested in selling that P225? 

- Alex

No, but they pop up on SigForum in the classifieds often enough.  I bought it with 4 mags and an IWB holster and have added TruGlo TFO's to it.

So what are you selling?

"How much for one rib?"

I'm doing this ahead of time so that I can plan accordingly.  My planning will also determine what I bring and what stays here in storage.  For handguns I will be bringing my P228 (I'll leave my hicaps here and get some 10 rounders at some point), P225 and P232.  My P226, SP2022 and P220 will be stored.  For long guns, I'm considering my Winchester 70, AR and possibly my H&R Tamer, the rest will be stored.  Pics have been posted in the Picture thread.  I have a Pelican 1720 for my AR and will be getting additional cases for the rest.

Geez man........you Sigwhoring it?

Hmm sorry if im stealig this thread or something. But i lost my longun permit. Am i supposed to report it?

Hmm sorry if im stealig this thread or something. But i lost my longun permit. Am i supposed to report it?

Go to the registration desk, they're going to make you do a police report.

Or if you don't plan on buying any guns soon, just get a new one when it expires.

Quote from: Travboi on October 25, 2011, 09:48:25 AM

Hmm sorry if im stealig this thread or something. But i lost my longun permit. Am i supposed to report it?

Go to the registration desk, they're going to make you do a police report.

Or if you don't plan on buying any guns soon, just get a new one when it expires.

Cool thanks. I think ill just wait til it expires. Ill just keep buying handguns til Feb

So what are you selling?

"How much for one rib?"

The only open classified ad I have right now is HERE

Geez man........you Sigwhoring it?

They work for me.  I learned long ago that if it doesn't fit and feel comfortable, you won't be able to shoot it "naturally" as well as if it does.  I don't buy fanboi hype or marketing, I let my hands help make by gun buying decisions.

^^^I ask because I've got two P220's.  Sold my Mosquito because it was crap and I'm trying to sell my 556SWAT.

^^^I ask because I've got two P220's.  Sold my Mosquito because it was crap and I'm trying to sell my 556SWAT.

How do you like that 556 SWAT?

*ears perk up*

Someones selling a Sig 556?  Do tell . . . .