Another AK or AK in 54R? (Read 7493 times)

Q

Another AK or AK in 54R?
« on: January 31, 2016, 12:33:28 AM »
Im torn.

On one hand, two AKs are nice in case one goes down, but a semi 54R would also be nice.

The toys i have my eye on are about the same price, and will probably come out the same price in the end after adding accessories  and/or furniture.

Each have their own pros and cons, and no....i cannot buy them both unfortunately.

astroboy

Re: Another AK or AK in 54R?
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2016, 01:59:59 AM »
I would pick a 54r rifle if it could be bought at a good price. I am sure you realize the days of reasonably priced 54r rifles like the romy psl are long gone.
If I remember correctly the psl mags are now $50+ when you can find them. I hope Kalashnikov USA will make a 54r rifle some day. Let us know what you decide
to do.     

Q

Re: Another AK or AK in 54R?
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2016, 04:35:44 AM »
I would pick a 54r rifle if it could be bought at a good price. I am sure you realize the days of reasonably priced 54r rifles like the romy psl are long gone.
If I remember correctly the psl mags are now $50+ when you can find them. I hope Kalashnikov USA will make a 54r rifle some day. Let us know what you decide
to do.   


AKM I was looking at will probably come out to 1200 with shipping and transfer.

Mags are covered, but for comparison, lets use the same amount, which would come out to 10 BHO mags for about $175.....or $225 if I go with modified polymers.

Probably update furniture, because I'm really digging the zhukov stock and moe handguard, so it will run me about $150, if I can find those prices again.

I like to have about 5,000 rounds minimum per rifle, but no less than 1,000 stocked away, so lets say 2,000 rounds initially, which should be about $600 on a good day.

Optics can come later; not essential at the moment.


Total for AKM: $2125 including ammo w/ steel mags, $2175 w/ polymer mags.



The 54R I'm looking at is sub $1000, but add on the transfer fee and shipping it's now 1100.

Given that this will be a DMR, will definitely need a scope and mount; probably another 500 minimum.

Couple that with the OEM 5 round mags, which run about $75/pair plus shipping, so lets say $125 a pair to be safe. Multiply that by 5 (to have a standard load out capacity plus extras in case) and you are looking at $625 in mags alone.

For DMRs, I like to have about 2000 rounds, but a bare minimum of 1000. ammo is about $16/20 rounds at the moment, so it might be around $400/500, so lets double that to $800/1000

Total for 54R (using highest values) :  :o $3025  :o



Of course....I could just just replace the AKM I was looking at with a WASR and save like 500 bucks  :geekdanc:

Look at these prices, the WASR is looking mighty tempting and makes me want to reconsider  :crazy:





But then again....these Prices are assuming I'm starting with nothing, where as I have certain things covered for either the AKM or 54R.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2016, 05:06:57 AM by Q »

Kingkeoni

Re: Another AK or AK in 54R?
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2016, 11:01:17 PM »
AK all day.

Having 2 weapons that share mags and ammo is almost a must.

The Zhukov furniture is awesome too.

I just spruced up one of my AK's.
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

Q

Re: Another AK or AK in 54R?
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2016, 01:51:27 AM »
AK all day.

Having 2 weapons that share mags and ammo is almost a must.

The Zhukov furniture is awesome too.

I just spruced up one of my AK's.

Question is: Do I go with the Definitive Arms AKM 4150n like I originally intended, or pick up another WASR for less and have more money for additional stuff?  :-\

tribaldread

Re: Another AK or AK in 54R?
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2016, 02:46:10 AM »
I'd go with the Definitive Arms AKM 4150 that's actually my next purchase whenever Atlantic Firearms has them in stock again. Atlantic Firearms has Definitive Arms DAMR VEPR 54 in stock.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
If Senzo Tanaka is your shidoshi, then show us the Dim Mak.

Q

Re: Another AK or AK in 54R?
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2016, 07:28:01 AM »
I'd go with the Definitive Arms AKM 4150 that's actually my next purchase whenever Atlantic Firearms has them in stock again. Atlantic Firearms has Definitive Arms DAMR VEPR 54 in stock.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Back off its mine!  :rofl:

Kingkeoni

Re: Another AK or AK in 54R?
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2016, 04:19:00 PM »
I would just buy a 10/63 and spend the savings on ammo and accessories.

The definitive arms one is nice, but I wouldn't spend that kind of money on it, if it were me.

Now if someone wanted to sell me a used one for $750, I'd be all over it.
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

Q

Re: Another AK or AK in 54R?
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2016, 06:44:07 PM »
I would just buy a 10/63 and spend the savings on ammo and accessories.

The definitive arms one is nice, but I wouldn't spend that kind of money on it, if it were me.

Now if someone wanted to sell me a used one for $750, I'd be all over it.

Sounds like a plan to me.

Sneaky guys at Atlantic already raised the price of the WASR after it went out of stock...those bastards.

Wondering if I should take the chance and just get one from Bud's, but run the risk of ending up with a canted sight and need do some work to get the muzzle end off.

jerry_03

Re: Another AK or AK in 54R?
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2016, 12:26:11 PM »
Pickup a SVT40

Heavies

Re: Another AK or AK in 54R?
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2016, 12:45:23 PM »

jaynick

Re: Another AK or AK in 54R?
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2016, 04:32:13 PM »
although an akm is probably a better choice, i vote for definitive arms vepr 54r. mostly because i want to see it in person if you buy it ;D. if the mags werent so expensive i would think about buying one sight unseen. probably not the best choice for my first ak type rifle though but i have 4 mosins and a few tins of ammo.

Q

Re: Another AK or AK in 54R?
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2016, 07:34:12 PM »
Pickup a SVT40

The mags alone are probalby going to cost more than a VEPR 54R.

Q

Re: Another AK or AK in 54R?
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2016, 07:35:17 PM »
although an akm is probably a better choice, i vote for definitive arms vepr 54r. mostly because i want to see it in person if you buy it ;D. if the mags werent so expensive i would think about buying one sight unseen. probably not the best choice for my first ak type rifle though but i have 4 mosins and a few tins of ammo.

DA 54rs run anywhere from 1300-1500 for just the rifle.

new guy

Re: Another AK or AK in 54R?
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2016, 08:39:04 PM »
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