new assistant chief of police with history of domestic violence (Read 15402 times)

Aegis808

Aegis808

Re: new assistant chief of police with history of domestic violence
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2016, 08:56:25 PM »
any one of us small people would be denied our right to even own a gun for doing such a thing and yet these idiots are allowed to walk the streets wearing badges telling us what we can't do.

eyeeatingfish

Re: new assistant chief of police with history of domestic violence
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2016, 09:27:23 PM »
Details do matter, but having said that, I don't know any details about the case.

The officer was pardoned by the governor though, which technically cleans his conviction like expunging your record right?

Then there is the topic of domestic violence, which in some ways has railroaded people. Cases are fraught with lies and false accusations making it difficult to ever find thermal truth. All sorts of dynamics involved that cloud what is presented as such a black and white issue. Domestic violence at its worst is horrible and needs to be addressed very aggressively but this ends up drawing in the most minor of offenses. The way the law is written probably most people are guilty of domestic violence.

So perhaps the question is what marks against someone's past are forgivable and what are not when it comes to public service?

Aegis808

Re: new assistant chief of police with history of domestic violence
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2016, 09:31:56 PM »
The double standard is glaringly obvious. People that don't work for the police or aren't friends of the governor wouldn't be given such exemptions without a long and expensive legal battle. Not to mention that HPD would come to your house and take every they could get their hands on that's weapons related.

eyeeatingfish

Re: new assistant chief of police with history of domestic violence
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2016, 10:34:38 PM »
The double standard is glaringly obvious. People that don't work for the police or aren't friends of the governor wouldn't be given such exemptions without a long and expensive legal battle. Not to mention that HPD would come to your house and take every they could get their hands on that's weapons related.

I do agree that the standard should be consistent across the board. Police shouldn't be getting expungements where everyone else can't. Pardons are on a different level though as they are a legal right granted to leaders and difficult to ensure they are consistent with the expungement system.

causa mortis

Re: new assistant chief of police with history of domestic violence
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2016, 12:33:21 PM »
Some animals are more equal than others.

Jl808

Re: new assistant chief of police with history of domestic violence
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2016, 01:16:21 PM »
Animal farm?
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aieahound

Re: new assistant chief of police with history of domestic violence
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2016, 01:25:07 PM »
which animals was it ?   ;)
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mrgaf

Re: new assistant chief of police with history of domestic violence
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2016, 02:07:53 PM »
HPD is such a screwed up PD because we let them get away with it. Personally I can't stand them. Arrogant bast**ds......... :worship: :wtf:
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survivorman

Re: new assistant chief of police with history of domestic violence
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2016, 02:23:16 PM »
I Think that for the most part HPD is a fairly good department.  However it does appear to have more than its share of idiots and A-holes, unfortunately many of them seem to be the ones setting policy.

Inspector

Re: new assistant chief of police with history of domestic violence
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2016, 02:33:06 PM »
which animals was it ?   ;)
Hounds, mostly!  :thumbsup:
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GZire

Re: new assistant chief of police with history of domestic violence
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2016, 06:55:21 PM »
Fantastic.

z06psi

Re: new assistant chief of police with history of domestic violence
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2016, 12:04:07 PM »
This island is so "hook a bra up" it's ridiculous.

The governor actually went on record saying that he pardoned him so he wouldn't lose his guns?  WTF?

Aegis808

Re: new assistant chief of police with history of domestic violence
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2016, 12:51:16 PM »
This island is so "hook a bra up" it's ridiculous.

The governor actually went on record saying that he pardoned him so he wouldn't lose his guns?  WTF?

i can't wait for da guv to pardon me so i don't lose my guns when i dont get gun insurance.

ren

Re: new assistant chief of police with history of domestic violence
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2016, 12:59:17 PM »
This island is so "hook a bra up" it's ridiculous.

The governor actually went on record saying that he pardoned him so he wouldn't lose his guns?  WTF?
He should also pardon those law abiding citizens who wet their beds in their younger years so they can get their guns. Also automatically grant victims of domestic violence the right to CCW and training paid for by state funds. We spend more money keeping criminals in jails and giving them 4th and 5th chances. Dont know where this states moral and ethical benchmark is but Im tired of reading about furlough inmates not coming back to jail after looking for jobs.
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paka808

Re: new assistant chief of police with history of domestic violence
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2016, 01:31:10 PM »
That is fu#$@d up that  he would get promoted with a domestic violence record. there were other candidates,probably with out a domestic violence record.what a bad descion.seems like you can get away with anything in hpd and still keep your job.domestic violence, improper storage of firearms(stolen from vehicles). discharging firearm by mistake.beating up girlfriend in a bar.etc..etc..Crap I picked the wrong profession.

Duenas0326

Re: new assistant chief of police with history of domestic violence
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2016, 02:05:09 PM »
HPD has a strong Union. SHOPO had the officer(s) reinstated.

z06psi

Re: new assistant chief of police with history of domestic violence
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2016, 09:05:54 AM »
And people wonder why people hate unions.

Duenas0326

Re: new assistant chief of police with history of domestic violence
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2016, 09:09:57 AM »
Yup true dat.