Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination? (Read 16435 times)

edster48

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2016, 08:34:08 AM »
I want to add that I think it is important that Trump needs to win or lose by the choice of voters through the political process. I don't want to see some back door technical loophole used to disqualify Trump. That could rip the party apart if soo many found that their vote ended up meaning nothing. They should

I hope Trump doesn't get the nomination but if he does then the republican party needs to honor the decision brought about by the democratic process.

I must say that I would like to see a competition between Hillary and Donald for the sake of entertainment and seeing who would come out on top, but I don't actually want that to be the outcome.

Very much on point.

The GOP is on thin ice with its constituency and it won't take much to cause an implosion.

Things like votes for Trump being switched to Rubio due to a "glitch" in some Texas precincts are only adding to the fire. The voters aren't going to tolerate it anymore.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2016, 03:09:03 AM »
Very much on point.

The GOP is on thin ice with its constituency and it won't take much to cause an implosion.

Things like votes for Trump being switched to Rubio due to a "glitch" in some Texas precincts are only adding to the fire. The voters aren't going to tolerate it anymore.


Democrats are in a similar position with their superdelegates system worth 15 percent of the vote. That means Sanders could beat Hillary by 14 percent of the votes and still lose by super delegates voting for Hillary.

whynow?

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2016, 08:27:00 PM »
If the Donald is nominated I'll vote for him against the corrupt one, assuming she is not indicted and barred from holding any position that might handle classified information prior to her trial which will probably be in 2017.
Right now my support is for Cruz.  Whoever wins has to be quick and hardnose and not hold back on her, which is why Kasich, Bush and Carson is/were too reserved or low energy.   They have to remember she's not a woman but a venomous snake.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2016, 12:40:39 AM »
If the Donald is nominated I'll vote for him against the corrupt one, assuming she is not indicted and barred from holding any position that might handle classified information prior to her trial which will probably be in 2017.
Right now my support is for Cruz.  Whoever wins has to be quick and hardnose and not hold back on her, which is why Kasich, Bush and Carson is/were too reserved or low energy.   They have to remember she's not a woman but a venomous snake.

I was going for Carson but now considering Kasich.

There is a load of dirt on Clinton and the arguments will be easy to make. I don't think we need some loudmouth just to win. I would personally prefer someone with a cleaner record, someone who can attack Clinton for her lies and not have a closet of skeletons they have to hide themselves. If it is Trump vs Clinton then we will just have two candidates with loads of dirt to be thrown.

Just my take.

edster48

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2016, 05:29:46 AM »
I was going for Carson but now considering Kasich.

There is a load of dirt on Clinton and the arguments will be easy to make. I don't think we need some loudmouth just to win. I would personally prefer someone with a cleaner record, someone who can attack Clinton for her lies and not have a closet of skeletons they have to hide themselves. If it is Trump vs Clinton then we will just have two candidates with loads of dirt to be thrown.

Just my take.

I too was initially impressed with Kasich. But then I remembered; he's a party hack. Just as beholden to the people that paid his way as all the others.

That, to me, is the critical difference. Take Trump out of the equation and the entire field is owned by what we now call the "donor class".

Yes, Trump was, and for that matter still is part of that "class". That's why they are so upset by him. He knows what makes them tick, what their agendas are, how they plan to bring them to fruition.

As far as his record, the mans life has been a matter of public record for over 30 years, warts and all. Especially the warts. I find it difficult to believe that there is anything earth shattering that we don't already know about him.

Attacking Hillary for her lies is pointless. Those that will vote for her already know she's a liar, and they don't care. That she's a democrat and, allegedly, in possession of a vagina is all they care about.

If we want anything to change in politics in this country we're going to have to get away from the status quo that has been screwing us for decades.

At this point in time I see Trump as the agent of that change. JMHO   :shaka:
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2016, 10:07:26 AM »
I too was initially impressed with Kasich. But then I remembered; he's a party hack. Just as beholden to the people that paid his way as all the others.

That, to me, is the critical difference. Take Trump out of the equation and the entire field is owned by what we now call the "donor class".

Yes, Trump was, and for that matter still is part of that "class". That's why they are so upset by him. He knows what makes them tick, what their agendas are, how they plan to bring them to fruition.

As far as his record, the mans life has been a matter of public record for over 30 years, warts and all. Especially the warts. I find it difficult to believe that there is anything earth shattering that we don't already know about him.

Attacking Hillary for her lies is pointless. Those that will vote for her already know she's a liar, and they don't care. That she's a democrat and, allegedly, in possession of a vagina is all they care about.

If we want anything to change in politics in this country we're going to have to get away from the status quo that has been screwing us for decades.

At this point in time I see Trump as the agent of that change. JMHO   :shaka:

Trumps known history is enough to rake him over the coals. Clinton could likely sway a large number of female votes just by repeatedly pointing out Trump's disparaging comments about women.

What do you mean Kasich is a hack? He clearly served a successful term as governor and he is the only one who has experience as an executive official. He is a little more moderate and can attract more votes from the other side. He doesn't run his mouth like an idiot. I haven't seen any skeletons coming form his closet. The only thing I don't like is that he has been in politics the whole time, he is not an outsider.

I do think Trump could be an agent of change. Not because of his positions but just because of his style. He is a reality show in politics.

Heavies

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2016, 10:26:18 AM »
Trumps known history is enough to rake him over the coals. Clinton could likely sway a large number of female votes just by repeatedly pointing out Trump's disparaging comments about women.

What do you mean Kasich is a hack? He clearly served a successful term as governor and he is the only one who has experience as an executive official. He is a little more moderate and can attract more votes from the other side. He doesn't run his mouth like an idiot. I haven't seen any skeletons coming form his closet. The only thing I don't like is that he has been in politics the whole time, he is not an outsider.

I do think Trump could be an agent of change. Not because of his positions but just because of his style. He is a reality show in politics.

Trump would make a change.  Maybe a little too right a change for many to stomach, that is why he has so much support.  He does have executive experience, just not in politics.

Clinton has skeletons, people don't care and would vote for her, Trump has skeletons, people don't care and would vote for him.  What matters is what direction people are wanting the country to go in.  Clinton further left, Trump back to the right. (assuming he is genuine)

Like I said, I'm not really a Trump supporter, but having to make that choice, I'm willing to take that gamble.

Plus, I wouldn't worry too much if you think Trump would go too far right.  There is enough rinos in congress to reign him in a little.  I think right is where we need to be.  It will bring balance back to the country.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2016, 10:33:36 AM »
Trump would make a change.  Maybe a little too right a change for many to stomach, that is why he has so much support.  He does have executive experience, just not in politics.

Clinton has skeletons, people don't care and would vote for her, Trump has skeletons, people don't care and would vote for him.  What matters is what direction people are wanting the country to go in.  Clinton further left, Trump back to the right. (assuming he is genuine)

Like I said, I'm not really a Trump supporter, but having to make that choice, I'm willing to take that gamble.

Plus, I wouldn't worry too much if you think Trump would go too far right.  There is enough rinos in congress to reign him in a little.  I think right is where we need to be.  It will bring balance back to the country.

I still don't know whether I trust Trump to be a genuine republican or conservative.

I am not worried about him being too far right. I think he is going to start pulling left. He knows that if he gets the nomination he needs to pull in moderates and undecided voters.

He has to make up for the republican voters that will vote 3rd party if he gets the nomination.

Heavies

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2016, 11:05:55 AM »
I still don't know whether I trust Trump to be a genuine republican or conservative.

I am not worried about him being too far right. I think he is going to start pulling left. He knows that if he gets the nomination he needs to pull in moderates and undecided voters.

He has to make up for the republican voters that will vote 3rd party if he gets the nomination.
That is also a valid concern.

edster48

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2016, 04:10:37 PM »
Trumps known history is enough to rake him over the coals. Clinton could likely sway a large number of female votes just by repeatedly pointing out Trump's disparaging comments about women.

What do you mean Kasich is a hack? He clearly served a successful term as governor and he is the only one who has experience as an executive official. He is a little more moderate and can attract more votes from the other side. He doesn't run his mouth like an idiot. I haven't seen any skeletons coming form his closet. The only thing I don't like is that he has been in politics the whole time, he is not an outsider.

I do think Trump could be an agent of change. Not because of his positions but just because of his style. He is a reality show in politics.

I said Kasich is a "party hack", meaning he will tow the GOP line for good or ill, because he will owe them his ass.

If you want more of the same that we've been getting from the GOP, he's your man.

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edster48

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2016, 04:27:51 PM »
I still don't know whether I trust Trump to be a genuine republican or conservative.

I am not worried about him being too far right. I think he is going to start pulling left. He knows that if he gets the nomination he needs to pull in moderates and undecided voters.

He has to make up for the republican voters that will vote 3rd party if he gets the nomination.

I'll go so far as to say I don't believe there are any "Genuine" conservatives left in the GOP, given the lightning speed that they show in capitulating to the left.

That being said, I agree that Trump will probably pull to the left, but people tend to forget that Reagan did the same thing. That was how he managed to be successful with a democratic congress. I'm not saying that Trump is the next Reagan, but I think he beats the alternatives hands down. He has experience putting together real world deals, at the highest levels of finance, working with people of opposing opinion and ideology and making it come out in his favor. I'm pretty sure he could do the same for the country.

As far as I'm concerned that beats both freshman senators and one governor that have no experience outside government.

If we're to survive as a nation, we need someone willing to grab the tiger by the tail and swing it.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2016, 04:37:07 PM by edster48 »
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