Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting (Read 165086 times)

ren

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #80 on: November 09, 2011, 04:59:52 PM »
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Highinthesierras wrote: We should count our blessings. If more mainland visitors were able to bring guns we would have many more shootings. The theft, harassment and other crimes we are so well known for tend to aggravate folks not used to them, and their reactions would be scary if armed.
on November 9,2011 | 06:48AMName: false 
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That's from one of the news articles.  People like this babbling idiot make me want to hang my head in shame for living here.  Then it makes me want to pack my bags and head for the mainland.  Is this guy/gal serious?  Their concern is that if people were allowed to carry, their reaction to theft, harassment, or other crimes might be scary?  Scary for who, you fraqqin' retard?

What an idiot. This has nothing to do with a regular citizens right to carry or CCW.  LE already carry them here. The anti gunners can't use this to justify more laws, as this is in LE's field.  I doubt that our state would have every Federal LE turn in their guns while on duty here. If we can't trust our own govt. to carry guns then what?
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tonsofguns

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #81 on: November 09, 2011, 07:55:18 PM »
Hey ren, your last sentence is EPIC

"if we can't trust our own gov't to carry guns, then what?"

Cougar8045

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #82 on: November 09, 2011, 08:16:00 PM »
Hey ren, your last sentence is EPIC

"if we can't trust our own gov't to carry guns, then what?"
+1
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hvybarrels

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #83 on: November 09, 2011, 09:25:52 PM »
sounds like the agent was drinking. he refused breath test on the scene. that's a big no no.
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vooduchikn

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #84 on: November 09, 2011, 09:48:34 PM »
sounds like the agent was drinking. he refused breath test on the scene. that's a big no no.

Is it? 

Whats your source? Links?
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Kingkeoni

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #85 on: November 09, 2011, 10:11:18 PM »
 :thumbsup:
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Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #86 on: November 10, 2011, 02:32:19 AM »
sounds like the agent was drinking. he refused breath test on the scene. that's a big no no.

From a legal standpoint, why would you ever give evidence to someone or consent to a search? I just don't see why someone would do that. It's not like it will help you in the future.
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Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #87 on: November 10, 2011, 03:55:35 AM »
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Highinthesierras wrote: We should count our blessings. If more mainland visitors were able to bring guns we would have many more shootings. The theft, harassment and other crimes we are so well known for tend to aggravate folks not used to them, and their reactions would be scary if armed.
on November 9,2011 | 06:48AMName: false 
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so i guess this guy thinks people in hawaii should just get used to crime and let it happen?

Kingkeoni

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #88 on: November 10, 2011, 07:25:31 AM »
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

vooduchikn

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #89 on: November 10, 2011, 07:27:01 AM »
sounds like the agent was drinking. he refused breath test on the scene. that's a big no no.

From a legal standpoint, why would you ever give evidence to someone or consent to a search? I just don't see why someone would do that. It's not like it will help you in the future.

This.
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Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #90 on: November 10, 2011, 07:48:32 AM »
Bottom line this is Obama's fault not Geo Bush!
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Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #91 on: November 10, 2011, 07:54:27 AM »
Bottom line this is Obama's fault not Geo Bush!
Deedy is Obama's boy.
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This............................is a retarded comment.
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Cougar8045

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #92 on: November 10, 2011, 09:32:06 AM »
Bottom line this is Obama's fault not Geo Bush!
Deedy is Obama's boy.
^
This............................is a retarded comment.
This.  Did all the military members switch from being Bush's boys to Obama's boys at inauguration time?  Do people really make decisions in a deadly force encounter based on who's sitting behind the fancy desk in the round room?
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nf9648

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #93 on: November 10, 2011, 10:14:08 AM »
Bottom line this is Obama's fault not Geo Bush!
Deedy is Obama's boy.
^
This............................is a retarded comment.
This.  Did all the military members switch from being Bush's boys to Obama's boys at inauguration time?  Do people really make decisions in a deadly force encounter based on who's sitting behind the fancy desk in the round room?

I left active duty to keep from being "Obama's boy" only to become Eric Holder's boy...

Funtimes

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #94 on: November 10, 2011, 11:10:54 AM »
I left active duty to keep from being "Obama's boy" only to become Eric Holder's boy...

But at least you are an international arm's dealer now :P that is kind of cool!
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Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #96 on: November 10, 2011, 05:52:32 PM »
Did the whole second two thirds of that article sound irrelevant to anyone else? It's like they're reaching to find someway to make the agent look bad or the shooting unjustified.
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ren

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #97 on: November 10, 2011, 06:51:48 PM »
The article appeared to be painting a picture to lay blame on the State Dept.
Everyone is speculating on behalf of the deceased.
What if the agent was protecting a dignitary?
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Mr. Farknocker

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #98 on: November 10, 2011, 09:28:06 PM »
Did the whole second two thirds of that article sound irrelevant to anyone else? It's like they're reaching to find someway to make the agent look bad or the shooting unjustified.

It is not irrelevant if your goal is to cast aspersion on the product of an allgedly deficient agency. This is the kind of "stuff" plaintiff's counsel would use to build his case against the agent. Looks like attorney Green is getting some help .

Cougar8045

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #99 on: November 10, 2011, 09:35:27 PM »
Sure doesn't sound good, that's for sure.
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