Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting (Read 164328 times)

vooduchikn

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #280 on: May 18, 2012, 10:43:59 AM »
That'll be an interesting can of worms.  The "law" as it is written in Hawaii/Honolulu County regarding Concealed Carry of Firearms and their use in self defense situations?  Or perhaps withing the scope of his (temporary) duties while assigned to the detail which directed his place of employment as Hawaii/Honolulu County?  The response from he judge could very well affect the direction of "the Lawsuit" implicating Chief Kealoha and the Govenor.


Not likely. If Deedy was indeed "on the job"  he falls under a different set of rules than your average citizen.

Waiting for the outcome.  :popcorn:
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robtmc

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #281 on: May 18, 2012, 11:05:10 AM »

Not likely. If Deedy was indeed "on the job"  he falls under a different set of rules than your average citizen.
Maybe I missed it, but has there been any indication at all that he was actively on a protective detail that night, or just carrying because he could?

bass monkey

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #282 on: May 18, 2012, 12:24:35 PM »
Maybe I missed it, but has there been any indication at all that he was actively on a protective detail that night, or just carrying because he could?

He was there with other people, who's name was never released.

Dblnaknak

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #283 on: May 19, 2012, 04:47:46 AM »
That'll be an interesting can of worms.  The "law" as it is written in Hawaii/Honolulu County regarding Concealed Carry of Firearms and their use in self defense situations?  Or perhaps withing the scope of his (temporary) duties while assigned to the detail which directed his place of employment as Hawaii/Honolulu County?  The response from he judge could very well affect the direction of "the Lawsuit" implicating Chief Kealoha and the Govenor.



Federal agents don't fall under Hawaii CC law. As long as he followed his agency's use of force policy he cannot be charged with a crime. He will seek qualified immunity rendering all criminal and civil cases void.

What some people fail to understand is LEOs can carry concealed in all 50 states no matter what state they hold their credentials in.

Growler67

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #284 on: May 19, 2012, 07:02:24 AM »
I am aware of LEOSA, but does he (as an employee of the State Department) qualify or otherwise fall under classification of a LEO?  I do not think he is a sworn officer that has police powers.  He was on a detailed in Hawaii but except for being employed by the State Department was/is not different that a citizen.  Security Guards aren't allowed to carry in Hawaii (generally) and only on duty if they are, He was part of a Security Detail and does not have any law enforcement powers as far as I know, so as I understand it.....he was no different than John Q Public.
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Dblnaknak

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #285 on: May 19, 2012, 12:05:29 PM »
I am aware of LEOSA, but does he (as an employee of the State Department) qualify or otherwise fall under classification of a LEO?  I do not think he is a sworn officer that has police powers.  He was on a detailed in Hawaii but except for being employed by the State Department was/is not different that a citizen.  Security Guards aren't allowed to carry in Hawaii (generally) and only on duty if they are, He was part of a Security Detail and does not have any law enforcement powers as far as I know, so as I understand it.....he was no different than John Q Public.

State department agents are sworn federal agents with full arrest powers in all 50 states. They are 1811 series federal employees. Just because he was part of a security detail does not mean that he was a security guard. In fact on that same security detail there were FBI, ATF, HPD and others.

Jkeone808

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #286 on: May 24, 2012, 03:23:37 PM »

No ruling today in request to seal documents in case against federal agent

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/153857625.html
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Cougar8045

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #287 on: May 29, 2012, 06:25:32 AM »
According to the defense, the surveillance footage should be released to the public, since it shows Deedy identifying himself as a federal agent, then being attacked, then shooting Elderts.  According to the prosecution, the footage should be sealed, because it shows Deedy identifying himself as a federal agent, then being attacked, then shooting Elderts, which is going to make it really hard to get that filthy Imperialist pigdog thrown in prison. 
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bass monkey

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #288 on: May 31, 2012, 06:06:53 PM »
News just announced judge decided that the video should be kept sealed.

Trying to find the news article about it

Jkeone808

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #289 on: May 31, 2012, 07:22:18 PM »
News just announced judge decided that the video should be kept sealed.

Trying to find the news article about it

I just saw that on the 6:00 news.
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Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #290 on: May 31, 2012, 09:43:42 PM »
Hawaii coverup :P look at it go!
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GZire

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #291 on: June 15, 2012, 07:44:30 AM »
So who has access to the SA? 


http://www.staradvertiser.com/s?action=login&f=y&id=159166525

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Docket omits hearing on tossing murder rap

Consideration of a motion to dismiss case against a U.S. agent is no longer scheduled

By Gregg K. Kakesako

POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Jun 15, 2012

State Circuit Judge Karen Ahn has removed from her calendar a hearing on a motion by the attorney for Christopher Deedy to dismiss a murder charge against the State Department special agent.

Ahn had scheduled July 13 to hear motions by Deedy's attorney, Brook Hart, who wants the murder case dismissed. Login for more...

kaneohegrown

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #292 on: June 15, 2012, 10:37:28 AM »
So who has access to the SA? 


http://www.staradvertiser.com/s?action=login&f=y&id=159166525

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State Circuit Judge Karen Ahn has removed from her calendar a hearing on a motion by the attorney for Christopher Deedy to dismiss a murder charge against the State Department special agent.

Ahn had scheduled July 13 to hear motions by Deedy's attorney, Brook Hart, who wants the murder case dismissed.

Deedy, 28, is scheduled to stand trial in Ahn's court on Sept. 10 on charges of second-degree murder and use of a firearm.

Hart said Thursday he does not view Ahn's action as a setback. No reason was given for the hearing's removal from her calendar.

He said there are other motions he is considering, as well as the possibility of moving Deedy's case to federal court.

Earlier, Hart said Deedy was in Honolulu as a federal law enforcement officer on an official U.S. State Department assignment with the power of arrest and the right to carry a firearm when he shot and killed Kollin Elderts, 23, Nov. 5 at a Waikiki McDonald's restaurant.

In legal papers filed in Circuit Court June 8 opposing Hart's request for more materials, city Deputy Prosector Janice Futa said Deedy was "the first aggressor" in an early morning fight inside the fast-food restaurant.

Futa said "independent witnesses stated that Deedy acted as the first aggressor, escalating a verbal argument into a physical confrontation when he (Deedy) thrust kicked Elderts in the chest/stomach area and threw his slippers at Elderts, striking Elderts in the head."

She said all police reports as well as relevant written or recorded witness statements have been provided to Hart.

Futa said Hart is "conducting a fishing expedition" with his requests.

She also said Hart's request for the criminal records of Elderts, his companion that night — Shane Medeiros — and potential witnesses, and for the birth dates and Social Security numbers of all potential witnesses, is not relevant to the case.

Earlier this month, Ahn, a former congressional aide and television journalist, granted a prosecution request to seal the restaurant's surveillance videos.

The judge also kept private portions of the court document referring to events depicted on the surveillance videos of the shooting.

Hart and the Honolulu Star-Advertiser, its television news partner Hawaii News Now and online news site Hawaii Reporter opposed the sealing.

Ahn ruled that the videos, if released, would essentially go viral on the Internet and provide images that could jeopardize a fair trial for the prosecution, defense or both.

Hart filed the dismissal motion and exhibits that included the surveillance videos on May 14, which as court filings normally would have been public. But the filings were kept private because of the prosecution's pending request and the judge's ruling.

Hart has said federal law empowers a federal officer to act within the scope of his duties to protect a person from a "crime of violence."

Deedy acted, Hart has said, in response to "attacks" on himself and a friend.

The State Department has said Deedy was in Hawaii as a member of its Bureau of Diplomatic Security to provide security for leaders attending the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation conference.

Deedy is free on $250,000 bail and has returned to his home in Virginia awaiting the Honolulu criminal trial.

GZire

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #293 on: June 15, 2012, 12:28:41 PM »
Thank you sir.


Find it interesting that (City Deputy Prosector Janice) Futa doesn't feel Elderts and Medeiros has any bearing on the case.

Dblnaknak

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #294 on: June 15, 2012, 05:34:17 PM »
It's because he's going to get qualified immunity....there is a reason why the prosecution fought to keep the evidence suppressed. Usually it's the defense that wants to supress evidence not the prosecution.

Dblnaknak

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #295 on: June 19, 2012, 06:26:11 PM »
The video shows an argument maybe a knife then a shooting and most importantly a so called cold blooded federal agent performing CPR on a so called model citizen.

bass monkey

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #296 on: June 19, 2012, 06:50:26 PM »
Have you seen the video?

TeamMidori

Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #297 on: June 19, 2012, 11:35:11 PM »
Link?

Jkeone808

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #298 on: August 07, 2012, 01:47:01 PM »
Federal agent denied murder case transfer to U.S. District Court

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/165353856.html
"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."
- George Washington

bass monkey

Re: Federal agent involved in Waikiki shooting
« Reply #299 on: August 07, 2012, 06:51:18 PM »
I thought they would have won that injunction, even though it passed the 30 days, and they would move it to the mainland or something and that would be the last we would ever hear of it. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.  Maybe after this their will be riots and whatnot in the streets like with the LA riots.  Haha. Yeah right