and FYI no parking on Beretania after 330pm... one time i thought i scored front row parking, and then noticed all the street parking was open, then i read the sign

Quote from: bass monkey on November 11, 2011, 11:36:47 AM

Thanks for the links.  I usually pass the hospital and come up the side and am able to find parking there or on beritania.  Nice to know theres other park as well.

I dont think I have ever paid down there. Always time on the meters..guess I am an Aku Bird.

i always put extra. it's a toss up how long you can be in there.

Oops .25 per 10 min.

I"m supposed to meet a forum member down there MOnday to negotiate an exchange of my money and his gun.  Bad idea?  Should we postpone?

If the HPD lot is closed, there is metered parking in the City's Municipal Building underground lot right next door. It was open all of last week and would have saved you the trouble of walking so far. If you're heading down Beretania, it's the first driveway on the left after you pass the HPD main station and Alapai St.

No comment.

No comment.

Wasn't that a comment? 

All eligible public officers, before entering upon the duties of their respective offices, shall take and subscribe to the following oath or affirmation:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the State of Hawaii, and that I will faithfully discharge my duties as ... to best of my ability."

As used in this section, "eligible public officers" means the governor, the lieutenant governor, the members of both houses of the legislature, the members of the board of education, the members of the national guard, State or county employees who possess police powers, district court judges, and all those whose appointment requires the consent of the senate.

[Ren and am Const Con 1978 and election Nov 7, 1978; am SB 1440 (1992) and election Nov 3, 1992]

http://archives.starbulletin.com/2002/10/02/news/story7.html

Chief Donohue says police are
obligated to follow the constitution

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By Rod Antone
rantone@starbulletin.com

Honolulu Police Chief Lee Donohue mentioned the word "God" 11 times during his speech at last night's graduation ceremonies for the department's 141st police recruit class.

Ironically, it was a speech focused on why the department was taking out the phrase "so help me God" from its oath, and why the 22 new police recruits who were reciting the new oath for the first time should not feel like they were any less of a police officer because of it.

"The question is: Do we do what is right or do we do what is popular?" Donohue said. "Tonight we will do what is right. As police officers, we have no other choice.

"As you move on in your career, I encourage you to base all of your actions in life on what is right."

The department's oath of office was challenged last month by Mitch Kahle, head of the organization Hawaii Citizens for Separation of State and Church.

Kahle argued that the oath did not conform to the oath for public law enforcement officers as specified in the state constitution, and therefore the police department oath should be changed.

Though reluctant, Donohue agreed, drawing a number of angry responses from people about the decision -- many of whom felt the police department should have put up a fight to protect their oath.

Last night, Donohue explained the department's logic.

"Have we 'caved in' to a majority of opinion?" he said. "The answer is no! ... The majority of the thousands of e-mail received at our department has urged us not to delete the phrase 'so help me God.' And yet our state constitution mandates that we must use the oath as written in the state constitution. ... As officers of the law, we must also obey the law."

For the first time, graduating Honolulu police officers ended their oath with the words, "to the best of my ability" -- a literary difference that new officers said didn't change why they chose to wear a badge in the first place.

"I joined to make a difference, to try and give something back," said officer Brian Blackwell.

"I don't think it changes anything about the job we have to do, which is serving the community."

Honolulu Police Department

Terry, 230RN

Looks to me like somebody out there's got a lot of suein' 'n impeachin' 'n recallin' to do.

Terry, 230RN

Looks to me like somebody out there's got a lot of suein' 'n impeachin' 'n recallin' to do.

Terry, 230RN

? This happened back in 2002. What good would it do to impeach someone who had nothing to do with it?

EDIT: Maybe I misunderstood the purpose of the article you posted.

Sad.

antoinebugleboy:

EDIT: Maybe I misunderstood the purpose of the article you posted.

Yeah, I shoulda made it more clear, but I wanted to keep it in line with my snotty "No comment" non-comment in a previous post.  So I didn't say anything, just left it at that.

The point was (even though it was back in 2002 and on a non-firearms-related matter), you once had a Chief who seemed to respect the idea that the Constitution overrode personal opinions.  And incidentally, was not a slave to the "majority opinion."  Though he probably got a good talking-to by the State Solicitors and the Attorney General.

I'd also like to point this out, which I posted in the Sate Legislative Updates sub-forum:

http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=304.msg19363#msg19363

If indeed you do have a "Volunteer Lobbyist" program like Colorado's, AND your legislative session opens in January 2012, you ought to get humpin' on getting yourselves registered as Volunteer Lobbyists.

The "Volunteer" part of it indicates that you are not PAID lobbyists.

I should also point out that (at least in Colorado) the Legislative Drafting Office is probably as busy as bees drafting and editing requested legislation right now, for the 2012 session, and as a Lobbyist, you might be privy to these drafts.

So, what is it, 11:15 AM Monday Morning over there as this is being posted with edits?  Yes, I mean right now, and they're probably thinking about lunchtime right now.

Just a couple of hints.

Terry, 230RN

Very good. Thanks for the clarification, Terry. 

I Just left firearms, in and out in 10 minutes....  Back to normal

You was the uncle with the AR from kaneohe gun store? I just came from there maybe half hour ago. Picked up my permit and should ne heading back sown in another half hour or so

Had 5 people in the room at 230pm. Got in and out in about 10 min. My friend went at 9am yesterday. He said there was a wait.

I was there around 2:30