So just to be clear, I AM AGAINST ENROLLMENT IN THE A RAPBACK SYSTEM.

That being said, Could a side effect of the rapback system be the elimination of background checks after the first one ?  If they are constantly checking our information for crimes that would prohibit us from owning a firearm, one could say that their would be no need to do a background check every time after the first, Eliminating the 14day waiting period.

WHen was the last time legislators listened to us?
Look at all the testimonies in opposition of all the anti 2A bills but yet they still proceed.
Hawaii Democratic legislators have a sense of elitism and entitlement.

Eliminating the 14day waiting period.

Probably won't work.  Right now a waiting period doesn't make sense for people who already own firearms.  Purpose of the 14 day waiting period is to do background checks, supposedly prevent suicides and immediate crimes, and discourage people from buying firearms.

So just to be clear, I AM AGAINST ENROLLMENT IN THE A RAPBACK SYSTEM.

That being said, Could a side effect of the rapback system be the elimination of background checks after the first one ?  If they are constantly checking our information for crimes that would prohibit us from owning a firearm, one could say that their would be no need to do a background check every time after the first, Eliminating the 14day waiting period.

Logically speaking you are right. Although, the rap back system would only check for criminal issues right? If mental health issues are not checked then they wouldn't even consider it.

Probably won't work.  Right now a waiting period doesn't make sense for people who already own firearms.  Purpose of the 14 day waiting period is to do background checks, supposedly prevent suicides and immediate crimes, and discourage people from buying firearms.

CA already ruled that waiting periods on people who already owned firearms was unconstitutional. So their is a legal precedent already (they can do a background check but the permit must be released as soon as its completed, which is no more then 3 days)

Logically speaking you are right. Although, the rap back system would only check for criminal issues right? If mental health issues are not checked then they wouldn't even consider it.

Im still not sure on the legality of Hawaii's medical background checks, The law says you are required to sign a medical release, it says nothing about what other information you must provide (such as doctors information) You are not required under the law to get a medical clearance, HPD is allowed to check your status as per your signature,
I believe forcing you to get a medical clearance (if your health provider decline to answer their questions, you do not have a doctor, or as the case with kaiser they dont provide clearance but instead provide your medical information) would be unconstitutional.  They can only deny your permit based on confirmation of a medical reason not on lack of confirmation that you dont have one.

That being said i believe the case would still be the same as the background check, Once i have 1 gun having more dont make me any more dangerous, Do the check, let me have my gun and get back to me latter if their is a problem.

I spoke to a guy I know who works at the firearms window.
He confirmed my suspicions. The rap back system does not check for mental illness issues so it would not be able to eliminate the 2 week waiting requirement.

On a side note, he did say he supported the rap back system. Now just to clarify, this guy is not anti gun, he is quite the firearm aficionado. He doesn't want to stop people from having guns, but he does want to stop the wrong people from having guns. He explained that the rap back system makes his job a lot easier and more effective. There are certainly people in this world who should not be having firearms and this system would become much more effective at keeping those people from slipping through the cracks. As a system, rap back doesn't really change that background checks are done, it improves the information sharing so that the checks are more effective.

I spoke to a guy I know who works at the firearms window.
He confirmed my suspicions. The rap back system does not check for mental illness issues so it would not be able to eliminate the 2 week waiting requirement.

On a side note, he did say he supported the rap back system. Now just to clarify, this guy is not anti gun, he is quite the firearm aficionado. He doesn't want to stop people from having guns, but he does want to stop the wrong people from having guns. He explained that the rap back system makes his job a lot easier and more effective. There are certainly people in this world who should not be having firearms and this system would become much more effective at keeping those people from slipping through the cracks. As a system, rap back doesn't really change that background checks are done, it improves the information sharing so that the checks are more effective.

It's when you learn that once your in it you are in it, even if you sold all your firearms you are in the system untill you are 99 years old or dead, The FBI retains your fingerprints in a database forever, even tho you have never committed a crime,

it has nothing to do with the current background  checks, it enrolled you into a constant background check, anytime you commit/area cussed off any sort of crime HPD would get a notification to let them know, they will then decide if that would exclude you from owning a firearm.

It's when you learn that once your in it you are in it, even if you sold all your firearms you are in the system untill you are 99 years old or dead, The FBI retains your fingerprints in a database forever, even tho you have never committed a crime,

it has nothing to do with the current background  checks, it enrolled you into a constant background check, anytime you commit/area cussed off any sort of crime HPD would get a notification to let them know, they will then decide if that would exclude you from owning a firearm.

I am aware of that. I was addressing your original thought that maybe it could eliminate the 14 day waiting period. It won't.