National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act to be voted on in the U.S. House of Repr (Read 24182 times)

GZire

So I get these emails from the NRA (being a member and all) and I just got this one.

Just a portion of the email:

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HI01
National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act to be voted on in the U.S. House of Representatives this week!

On Tuesday, November 15, the U.S. House of Representatives will vote on H.R. 822, the "National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act." Please contact Representative Hanabusa and urge her to vote for this pro-gun legislation. This important bill would allow any law-abiding concealed carry permit holder to legally carry a concealed firearm while visiting any state that does not prohibit concealed carry.

Please contact Rep. Hanabusa as soon as possible and urge her to vote for H.R. 822, the "National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act".
Phone:
Washington,   DC (202) 225-2726

Honolulu   (808) 541-2570
Email: http://www.capwiz.com/nra/issues/alert/?alertid=55111516
 



OK...........really petition Hanabusa?  Is this state dependent or does the NRA not have an anti-gun list of the members of Congress?  WTH?

antoinebugleboy

Couldn't hurt. At least, if she got enough petitions, she'd know she has constituents that are pro-gun, and that might influence her to moderate her stance a bit.
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Heavies

Couldn't hurt. At least, if she got enough petitions, she'd know she has constituents that are pro-gun, and that might influence her to moderate her stance a bit.

Nice thoughts.  ;D
But I highly doubt she will moderate anything... Unless there is something in it for hanabusa.

Been getting these emails too, and others by the other 'pro gunners' saying it will cause overstepping of the Feds in the realm of CC.
Dunno what to believe, and both sides of the card make sense. Maybe if Hanas votes for this bill I'll know i need to worry about it. Cause I'll know somethings up.  :P

GZire

I think she can be bought.  The question is how much.

Aegis808

if everyone on HI that owned a gun called in or emailed you can bet you'd get a sure sign of one of two things.

1. she will listen to her constituency

or

2. she has no regard for them a will do things on her own accord

bass monkey

Do you think that the passing of this bill will help the Hawaii cause?


Maybe everyone here is a little kid at heart and the, "if there doing it we can too" mentality will ensue.  Yeah right.
What do you guys think though?

Oh i also emailed in.  Couldnt hurt, or at least i hope not

Heavies

Nah. Even if the whole state emailed, she wouldn't vote pro. Unless there was something in it for her. Just sayin.

GZire

Do you think that the passing of this bill will help the Hawaii cause?


Maybe everyone here is a little kid at heart and the, "if there doing it we can too" mentality will ensue.  Yeah right.
What do you guys think though?

Oh i also emailed in.  Couldnt hurt, or at least i hope not

I don't think this will help Hawaii.  Until Hawaii gets sued and is forced to go to a shall carry mentality nothing will change.

antoinebugleboy

Sent in my email. Like I said, couldn't hurt.
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Aegis808

just sent my email out

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So it was voted on and it passed the House.

http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/NewsReleases.aspx?id=15773
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ooops wrong thread my bad

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Stop me if I read wrong but... this means that if any person legally possessing a CCP from another state could CC in Hawaii providing that he/she abides by Hawaii carry laws for those few and precious Hawaii permits that do get issued?

Yes, Yes, that is taking into account that it will pass the senate and further...
Buy your guns by yardline, not looks!

808shooter

I also read that it prohibits citizens getting a CCW in another state to carry in theirs.  I may be wrong?

bass monkey

So I get these emails from the NRA (being a member and all) and I just got this one.

Just a portion of the email:

Quote
HI01
National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act to be voted on in the U.S. House of Representatives this week!

On Tuesday, November 15, the U.S. House of Representatives will vote on H.R. 822, the "National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act." Please contact Representative Hanabusa and urge her to vote for this pro-gun legislation. This important bill would allow any law-abiding concealed carry permit holder to legally carry a concealed firearm while visiting any state that does not prohibit concealed carry.

Please contact Rep. Hanabusa as soon as possible and urge her to vote for H.R. 822, the "National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act".
Phone:
Washington,   DC (202) 225-2726

Honolulu   (808) 541-2570
Email: http://www.capwiz.com/nra/issues/alert/?alertid=55111516
 



OK...........really petition Hanabusa?  Is this state dependent or does the NRA not have an anti-gun list of the members of Congress?  WTH?


I also read that it prohibits citizens getting a CCW in another state to carry in theirs.  I may be wrong?


The way it sounds to me, only people visiting can carry.  If you had your cc for vegas or texas, you still wouldnt be able to cause your a resident and not "visiting"
Thats my translation of it

Kingkeoni

Looks like I'm changing my state of residence
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

Funtimes

Looks like I'm changing my state of residence

King! I made us HR 822 T-shirts dude... this will be great. We can wear them together  :love:







In all honesty, I'm sure it wouldn't take long for the public message to turn into this. Which could be a good thing. It might actually motivate people to turn out and demand they too should be able to carry firearms.
It will be a losing battle for Hawaii to attempt to screw with people lawfully exercising their rights under Federal law. More importantly, you can't argue that when one person can do something, an entire populace, simply because of where their residency is, are some how inherently more dangerous or less valuable. Win - Win. GG! (good game)  :thumbsup:

--- T-shirt is purely satire (a joke) in nature.   :rofl:

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bass monkey

Yeah that's what I was saying earlier about the whole if everyone else can ccw here why can't residents. Hopefully it helps the cause.

Also was this vote just the house, and than we have to wait another lifetime before the senate votes or when are they scheduled to hear it?