Why settle for mediocracy?

I think the word you were looking for is "idiocracy"? 

QUESTION: where is Mufi in all this?

QUESTION: where is Mufi in all this?

Moved on. Still a DJ?

If it could be better, why not do SOMETHING about it? Like protest and support defunding and tearing it down until we get a rail (or an even better solution) that is better and cheaper than what we have now? Why settle for mediocracy? Stand up to the government and make your voice heard. We deserve better! Don't just give up and say "We got what we got." That is being a milquetoast.

milquetoast:
noun, ( sometimes initial capital letter)
1. a very timid, unassertive, spineless person, especially one who is easily dominated or intimidated

And since you said it could be worse, please explain how it could be worse?

It could cost more or stop half way in kalihi and never continue again.  At this point if we stop if will never finish.  The bad taste is in our mouths if we don't see the good in this we will be stuck in the past and use cars for transport for our ever growing population.  The rail is change.  What i hope to get from this is after its finish and is successful we can move on to other projects and with the knowledge of our current mistakes we make changes and do it correctly.  Just like trumps wall, if its not funded soon it will probably never get funded.  Some things need to be finished sooner rather than later cause the enthusiasm diminishes with time.

I think it will eventually be completed because in ten years when there's gridlock on the highways, people will ask why don't we complete the rail???

The rail might not work for most people initially but after several years, people will change their lives to make it easier by either moving or by choosing a job that is easier to use.

QUESTION: where is Mufi in all this?

I noticed he is on the list of names to be selected from to form the committee to make suggestions to the Police Commission for Honolulu Police Chief candidates. One step above "meter maid", but not that much.

The bad taste is in our mouths if we don't see the good in this we will be stuck in the past and use cars for transport for our ever growing population.  The rail is change.

I think it will eventually be completed because in ten years when there's gridlock on the highways, people will ask why don't we complete the rail???

The rail might not work for most people initially but after several years, people will change their lives to make it easier by either moving or by choosing a job that is easier to use.

Once everyone is buying a significantly higher percentage of stuff online (delivered by drones) instead of at brick and mortar stores (as predicted with significant consequences by several "authorities"), other work done more via electronic communication, and we have flying cars, it'll all be mute. In the meantime politicians will continue to line their and their friends, cronies, and relatives pockets with all the taxpayer cash they can by whatever means. I still say: There is no end to it.

If I heard correctly on tbe interview with UH Professor Panvos, he estimates it will take another $7B to take it to Ala Moana, not $3B like HART and Caldwell say.  Given the track record of the latter two, I am inclined to believe the professor.

If I heard correctly on tbe interview with UH Professor Panvos, he estimates it will take another $7B to take it to Ala Moana, not $3B like HART and Caldwell say.  Given the track record of the latter two, I am inclined to believe the professor.

Had I not known (or suspected heavily) that Professor Panos Prevedouros' statements were heavily slanted by political aspects against political rival, I would generally take his statements about rail more seriously.  That said, I would agree that the reality is like closer to $7B than $3B.  Not only based on doubt about statements that HART has made in the past, but rumblings in the local engineering and construction industry.  However, I am not as current as I once was, so who knows. 

I think it will eventually be completed because in ten years when there's gridlock on the highways, people will ask why don't we complete the rail???

The rail might not work for most people initially but after several years, people will change their lives to make it easier by either moving or by choosing a job that is easier to use.

Well, that was the thought and expectation for Kapolei as the second city.  Since I moved back into town almost 10 years ago, I haven't kept up with changes in that regard, but it is my understanding that while a good amount of people did make life changes that included finding employment out west side and living out west side, that for every person who made that change, more did the opposite and more than made up for the "benefit" of those who did make the life change that would in theory provide relief in traffic congestion. 

It could cost more or stop half way in kalihi and never continue again.  At this point if we stop if will never finish.  The bad taste is in our mouths if we don't see the good in this we will be stuck in the past and use cars for transport for our ever growing population.  The rail is change.  What i hope to get from this is after its finish and is successful we can move on to other projects and with the knowledge of our current mistakes we make changes and do it correctly.  Just like trumps wall, if its not funded soon it will probably never get funded.  Some things need to be finished sooner rather than later cause the enthusiasm diminishes with time.

You don't teach politicians in office accountability by giving them 2-3 times what they projected to complete projects.  You do it by stopping projects that can not deliver the benefit needed to justify the cost.  In the future, they'll try to be more open and honest with their cost/benefit analysis, and not assume they will get WHATEVER IT TAKES to finish a poorly planned and managed project.

We get these kinds of projects because that's what always happens.  We need to stop with the "business as usual" model and move toward a "do it right or we shut you down" model.

With Oahu real estate prices going up every month, wait till they start buying the urban Honolulu properties needed to run the rail.  I see over $1B in land acquisition costs alone.

With Oahu real estate prices going up every month, wait till they start buying the urban Honolulu properties needed to run the rail.  I see over $1B in land acquisition costs alone.

Don't forget to add in the cost of paying off "Hawaiian Sacred Ground" protestors so they don't stage another Mauna Kea temper tantrum.   

With Oahu real estate prices going up every month, wait till they start buying the urban Honolulu properties needed to run the rail.  I see over $1B in land acquisition costs alone.

This is why we need to do it now, not later.

We get these kinds of projects because that's what always happens.  We need to stop with the "business as usual" model and move toward a "do it right or we shut you down" model.

Yes cause government shutdowns are good and the government just moves too fast....

Yes cause government shutdowns are good and the government just moves too fast....

Do you even read the comments you reply to, or just paste Liberal talking points?

Pathetic.   

Once everyone is buying a significantly higher percentage of stuff online (delivered by drones) instead of at brick and mortar stores (as predicted with significant consequences by several "authorities"), other work done more via electronic communication, and we have flying cars, it'll all be mute. In the meantime politicians will continue to line their and their friends, cronies, and relatives pockets with all the taxpayer cash they can by whatever means. I still say: There is no end to it.

Agree. If you want to figure out what the new technology will be, figure out what we spend the most time and money on. Commuting is a huge time suck, not to mention commercial airlines. We might have to plug ourselves into the Matrix to solve that. I'm not too worried about the robot overlords taking over because by then no one will notice or care. At least we're not stuck in traffic all day.

Do you even read the comments you reply to, or just paste Liberal talking points?

Pathetic.   

"do it right or we shut you down" model.

Do you even read what you type?



Let me elaborate that for your little mind.  When two sides don't agree on what is right and refuse to back down, we get the government shutdown.   And I was being facetious about how quickly our government does things so if you want them to do it even more "perfect"  with more sides getting everything they want.  Nothing will get done, ever.

"do it right or we shut you down" model.

Do you even read what you type?



Let me elaborate that for your little mind.  When two sides don't agree on what is right and refuse to back down, we get the government shutdown.   And I was being facetious about how quickly our government does things so if you want them to do it even more "perfect"  with more sides getting everything they want.  Nothing will get done, ever.

Shut down THE PROJECT, not THE GOVERNMENT.

Dimwit.

Shut down THE PROJECT, not THE GOVERNMENT.

Dimwit.

But your logic applies to all projects.  That same mentality would apply to budget and in the end the government would be even less cohesive.  It has literally already happened before because the two sides couldn't agree on a budget.