"she was such a nice girl, would never hurt anyone"

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someone was too much into Clash of Clans, Game of Thrones, Vikings 

liberals said she just needed a hug....
Officers should be carrying a bag of hugs on their belt...

Simple physics would show that the bullet would not provide enough force to dislodge an axe from someone's hand.

Simple physics would show that the bullet would not provide enough force to dislodge an axe from someone's hand.

facepalm...

Simple physics would show that the bullet would not provide enough force to dislodge an axe from someone's hand.

Simple physics doesnt account for pain when bullet enters hand

Officers should be carrying a bag of hugs on their belt...

hugs

I firmly believe that getting struck by an axe could result in death or serious bodily injury, therefore justifying "lethal force" (cop's gun).  Then again, I'm not an attorney, and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. 

Simple physics doesnt account for pain when bullet enters hand

Or the fact that most cops are lousy shots, not marksman.  Apparently the writer of "shoot it out of her hand" has never read those articles of cops blazing away and never hitting anything but bystanders.

Simple physics doesnt account for pain when bullet enters hand

Shooting it out of her hand implies hitting the axe not the hand, hence my comments on the physics.


Hitting the hand would likely be effective but of course is still a ridiculously stupid suggestion.

Or the fact that most cops are lousy shots, not marksman.  Apparently the writer of "shoot it out of her hand" has never read those articles of cops blazing away and never hitting anything but bystanders.

Cops aren't trained in that type of shooting. Current training is center mass and rapid response under high stress.

Suggesting cops are lousy shots because they miss under high stress situations is almost as ignorant as suggestions that cops should have shot the axe out of her hand.

Cops aren't trained in that type of shooting. Current training is center mass and rapid response under high stress.

Suggesting cops are lousy shots because they miss under high stress situations is almost as ignorant as suggestions that cops should have shot the axe out of her hand.

In other words "Their current training is ineffective".

I figure the officer took maybe 10-12 steps backward (about 20 ft) issuing commands as he was being "approached"  and losing distance between "attacker"  before taking CM shot.
She was given every chance to NOT get shot.
Good job by the responding officer ! 

In other words "Their current training is ineffective".

In other words "Their current training is ineffective".

My last qualification shooting in the military did not require me to say anything.  I had to shoot
right handed, left handed, squatted, behind doors and all timed.  Scored less than 85 you failed.
because you were considered dead, because action is faster than re-action.  I had a rifle. a pistol
would have been a lot easier.
We don't have Cops today, we have people trained to kill first and then collect a pension.

Shooting it out of her hand implies hitting the axe not the hand, hence my comments on the physics.


Hitting the hand would likely be effective but of course is still a ridiculously stupid suggestion.

if it was a 9mm that's about 400 foot pounds of pressure on that axe.
I can't lift 400 pounds with one arm.
I watched Deadpool and it appeared that Colussus coudl.

if it was a 9mm that's about 400 foot pounds of pressure on that axe.
I can't lift 400 pounds with one arm.
I watched Deadpool and it appeared that Colussus coudl.

Equa and opposite reaction. If the bullet could transfer that much energy to the axe then it would also have transferred that much energy into the firearm to get going, yet somehow you are able to hold onto a 9mm when you fire it.

In other words "Their current training is ineffective".

Not necessarily. Arguably no training could fully equip you to do that. Humans have limits, and suggesting that not passing those limits means the training was ineffective is just a copout. It is playing monday morning quarterback with no regards to the science involved.

Criticisms about shooting at the axe or ineffective training are made by people who have never tried shooting a handgun at a small moving target under stress.

Not necessarily. Arguably no training could fully equip you to do that. Humans have limits, and suggesting that not passing those limits means the training was ineffective is just a copout. It is playing monday morning quarterback with no regards to the science involved.

I guess you forgot both what you wrote and the context in which you wrote it. Here is the original comment and your response:

Or the fact that most cops are lousy shots, not marksman.  Apparently the writer of "shoot it out of her hand" has never read those articles of cops blazing away and never hitting anything but bystanders.

Cops aren't trained in that type of shooting. Current training is center mass and rapid response under high stress.

Suggesting cops are lousy shots because they miss under high stress situations is almost as ignorant as suggestions that cops should have shot the axe out of her hand.

The question wasn't about shooting a handheld object, it was clearly about the inability of LEOs in many actual events to hit a full-sized human target and the consequences of those missed shots to bystanders. You claimed that they are trained "under high stress" and then immediately "they miss under high stress". Therefore how can one conclude anything but that their "high stress training" is ineffective (according to your assertions)?

Equa and opposite reaction. If the bullet could transfer that much energy to the axe then it would also have transferred that much energy into the firearm to get going, yet somehow you are able to hold onto a 9mm when you fire it.

Wanna hold on to this ax I have?

I guess you forgot both what you wrote and the context in which you wrote it. Here is the original comment and your response:
The question wasn't about shooting a handheld object, it was clearly about the inability of LEOs in many actual events to hit a full-sized human target and the consequences of those missed shots to bystanders. You claimed that they are trained "under high stress" and then immediately "they miss under high stress". Therefore how can one conclude anything but that their "high stress training" is ineffective (according to your assertions)?

This character reminds me of a twentyish woman on another forum years ago that would jump into just about any thread to take a contrary viewpoint and chew away at it forever.

She was finally forced to admit that she "just liked to argue".   There is no point in conversing with someone like that.  Best to ignore someone that is in it just because they like to argue.