Article in Hawai'i Free Press from NRA-ILA about the five bills coming up for floor votes this week (Tuesday). Includes a one-click link to auto-send emails to your state rep and senator.

Five Anti-Gun Bills Scheduled for Floor Votes This Week

http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/17275/Hawaii-Five-Anti-Gun-Bills-Scheduled-for-Floor-Votes-This-Week.aspx

From NRA-ILA, April 10, 2016

Last week, four anti-gun bills, House Bill 625, House Bill 2632, House Bill 2629 and Senate Bill 2647 were given notice to be placed on the Senate and House floor calendars for next Tuesday, April 12.  Additionally, Senate Bill 2954 passed the House of Representatives and is scheduled for its final concurrence vote in the Senate on Tuesday as well.  Please click the “Take Action” button below to contact your state legislators in opposition to these anti-gun bills!

https://act.nraila.org/composeletters.aspx?AlertID=168

Here's an online poll for Thielen's constituency.

http://www.senatorlaurathielen.com/survey-questions-chance-legislator-part-2-house-bills/

Article in Hawai'i Free Press from NRA-ILA about the five bills coming up for floor votes this week (Tuesday). Includes a one-click link to auto-send emails to your state rep and senator.

Five Anti-Gun Bills Scheduled for Floor Votes This Week

http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/17275/Hawaii-Five-Anti-Gun-Bills-Scheduled-for-Floor-Votes-This-Week.aspx

From NRA-ILA, April 10, 2016

Last week, four anti-gun bills, House Bill 625, House Bill 2632, House Bill 2629 and Senate Bill 2647 were given notice to be placed on the Senate and House floor calendars for next Tuesday, April 12.  Additionally, Senate Bill 2954 passed the House of Representatives and is scheduled for its final concurrence vote in the Senate on Tuesday as well.  Please click the “Take Action” button below to contact your state legislators in opposition to these anti-gun bills!

https://act.nraila.org/composeletters.aspx?AlertID=168

Aloha,

It is critical that you write to your Senator.  We only have until tomorrow, but if you could send a quick email or fax or even make a phone call, it would help immensely.   The House vote was very close on SB 2954.  If the four representatives had not been absent, the bill might not have passed.  We need several hundred emails, faxes, letters, phone calls to go to the senators to oppose all four bills, as they are severely flawed and unconstitutional, if we want to try to influence the vote.  And, sadly, if even one bill passes this year, it will be a message to the anti-gun legislators to push harder next year and try for additional bad bills.  Session is almost over....we have to fight harder....we can do this, if enough gun owners get involved.

Thank you!!!!!

Kerry

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From: "Madeleine" <emailsentby@icontact.com>
Date: Apr 11, 2016 08:06
Subject: Contact your Senator about the four anti gun bills up for vote on Tuesday
To: <itsmeksn@gmail.com>
Cc:

 
State Affiliate of the National Rifle Association - Founded in 1857
 
April 11, 2016
 
 
 
 
On Tuesday, April 12, the Senate will vote on HB 625 (misdemeanor harrassment), HB 2629 (Rap Back), SB 2954 (Rap back), and HB 2632 (emergency hospitalization.
We need everyone to write to their Senators to kill these bills.  You can email all of the Senators with one email to:
Sens@capitol.hawaii.gov
If they don't hear from enough of us, they'll pass the bills.  Get involved NOW.  You need to contact your senator before Tuesday,  April 12.  If it goes to the Governor, our chances of killing the bills reduce significantly.
 
Also, please go to NRA,  https://www.nraila.org/articles/20160410/hawaii-anti-gun-bills-scheduled-for-floor-votes-next-week to send a message to your personal Legislators.
 
MAHALO
 
HARVEY GERWIG, LEGISLATIVE LIAISON and PRESIDENT, HRA
 
EMAIL:  HGHAWAII@GMAIL.COM,    PHONE:  (808) 306-7194
 
 

If there was ever a time for action, it is now. Over the last several weeks we have been asking that Hawaii's gun owners contact their respective legislators to help fight these bad bills. And some have responded, but if you look at the testimony submitted, it has numbered from 10-40 pieces submitted. That is pathetic.

How many people are registered on this forum alone? There is no reason we shouldn't be able to get hundreds of letters and testimony on a regular basis, but we can never seem to do that. Why?

If these measures pass you can rest assured folks like Karl Rhoades will be emboldened to submit more and more anti-gun bills next year. It's your choice....and your rights. Do something

I do love that "Take Action" button!

If there was ever a time for action, it is now. Over the last several weeks we have been asking that Hawaii's gun owners contact their respective legislators to help fight these bad bills. And some have responded, but if you look at the testimony submitted, it has numbered from 10-40 pieces submitted. That is pathetic.

How many people are registered on this forum alone? There is no reason we shouldn't be able to get hundreds of letters and testimony on a regular basis, but we can never seem to do that. Why?

If these measures pass you can rest assured folks like Karl Rhoades will be emboldened to submit more and more anti-gun bills next year. It's your choice....and your rights. Do something

HiC, you are correct that there are approx 3000 registered users, but there are only 1-200 that are active members
we have been actively trying to recruit new members and rally the troops, but as you know from the HRA mailing lists, it is a constant battle to get people to be active

it is a critical time, people
and we need to hit these bills HARD if we want to have any chance of stopping them

If there was ever a time for action, it is now. Over the last several weeks we have been asking that Hawaii's gun owners contact their respective legislators to help fight these bad bills. And some have responded, but if you look at the testimony submitted, it has numbered from 10-40 pieces submitted. That is pathetic.

How many people are registered on this forum alone? There is no reason we shouldn't be able to get hundreds of letters and testimony on a regular basis, but we can never seem to do that. Why?

If these measures pass you can rest assured folks like Karl Rhoades will be emboldened to submit more and more anti-gun bills next year. It's your choice....and your rights. Do something

I concur in your lament, only I don't think "pathetic" is a strong enough or accurate enough word. The truth is, collectively (that includes us, unfortunately) the people of Hawaii have the government they want and vote, or don't vote, for. Pretty simple. It's a fact (unless you believe there is enough voter fraud to explain the extremely lopsided results). The only thing that I believe could possibly start to steer the ship in another direction would be a huge influx of election campaign funding from the likes of a libertarian/conservative Bloombergian-type donor(s). Pretty sure that ain't gonna happen (Hawaii is such "small potatoes", why bother?). I've spent a huge number of hours researching issues, writing and submitting (sometimes lengthy) testimony, writing, emailing, and calling senators, representatives, the governor, the AG, police departments, county councils, etc., all to, apparently, no avail. How are you going to get uninterested and/or apathetic and/or people who believe "the system is rigged and your vote or input doesn't matter" to act? Oviously whatever strategies have been tried, don't work, at least not for Second Amendment issues. That being said, I gotta go send a few more emails and make a few more phone calls to traitors who politely tell me they will consider my "thoughts on the subject", then stab me in the back.     

HiC, you are correct that there are approx 3000 registered users, but there are only 1-200 that are active members
we have been actively trying to recruit new members and rally the troops, but as you know from the HRA mailing lists, it is a constant battle to get people to be active

it is a critical time, people
and we need to hit these bills HARD if we want to have any chance of stopping them

Mac,

I guess that's the point. There are 200 "active members" so we should be able to get more participation than we have.

And, don't get me wrong, I am just as disappointed with the HRA members as well. It is an ongoing problem that I have seen for many years, but it seems especially prevalent here (well, on internet forums in general, not just here). You post about a new unilateral procedure that HPD implements about firearms (an entirely hypothetical statement for illustration only) here and you get dozens of folks that will make multiple posts, spending literally hours complaining about said new procedure, but then those same folks can't find time to submit testimony or call/email their legislators because they're "too busy."

The bottom line is that Hawaii's gun owners, in general are apathetic when it comes to getting involved and yet extremely vocal when it comes to complaining about things. And, until it changes, we will always be fighting from a disadvantaged position.

For those like yourself (Mac) and others that have taken the time and put forth the effort, thank you! For those that are sitting back and finding excuses for not getting involved: shame on you.

Sent testimony on all 5 bills (again). Our legislators interpret a lack of testimony from us as "we're okay with it".  It only takes a few minutes to send testimony. Let's send them a clear message that we don't want these bills.

Done. Again.

Aloha!  Sorry for the late action, but I just clicked the link to show support and notified others who may not have heard.  Mahalo for the diligence and foresight to notify the 2AHawaii Ohana!

Happy Tuesday!
BikerCarl

Aloha!  Sorry for the late action, but I just clicked the link to show support and notified others who may not have heard.  Mahalo for the diligence and foresight to notify the 2AHawaii Ohana!

Happy Tuesday!
BikerCarl

sent to sens@capitol.hawaii.gov:

these bills place unnecesary burdens on LEGAL gun owners, and in the case of the RAP BACK bills, they violate Federal law regarding personal registration information

if you want to stop potential gun violence, efforts need to be concentrated on the mentally ill and ILLEGAL gun owners

aloha and mahalo

sf, dds

prolly late however I just emailed the senators bulk mail and Cc'ed mine just in case

As of 1:09 PM Tuesday:

We're 0 for 3, all losses by huge margins, almost unanimous against us! Testimony shmestimony!

(Please note that senator Slom is not voting due to heart surgery.)

HB625 HD1 SD1
Specifies that harassment by stalking and sexual assault are among the offenses that disqualify a person from owning, possessing, or controlling any firearm or ammunition. (SD1).
4/12/2016   S   Report adopted; Passed Third Reading, as amended (SD 1). Ayes, 22; Aye(s) with reservations: Senator(s) K.Kahele, Kidani, Riviere, Wakai . Noes, 2 (Senator(s) Harimoto, Ihara). Excused, 1 (Senator(s) Slom). Transmitted to House.

HB2629 HD2 SD2
Criminal History Record Checks; Police; Permits to Acquire Firearms; Firearm Registration; Rap Back System
Authorizes county police departments to enroll firearms permit applicants and individuals who are registering their firearms into a criminal record monitoring service used to alert police when an owner of a firearm is arrested for a criminal offense anywhere in the country. (SD2)
4/12/2016   S   Report adopted; Passed Third Reading, as amended (SD 2). Ayes, 23; Aye(s) with reservations: Senator(s) Wakai . Noes, 1 (Senator(s) Gabbard). Excused, 1 (Senator(s) Slom). Transmitted to House.

SB2647 SD1 HD2     
Wildlife; Species; Trafficking; Fines
Prohibits the sale, offer to sell, purchase, trade, possession with intent to sell, or barter of any part or product from various animal and marine species. Provides exceptions to this prohibition, including for traditional cultural practices protected under the State Constitution. Imposes penalties for violations of the prohibition on trafficking animal parts and products. (SB2647 HD2)
4/12/2016   H   Passed Third Reading as amended in HD 2 with Representative(s) Tupola voting aye with reservations; none voting no (0) and Representative(s) Ing, Thielen excused (2). Transmitted to Senate.

The message received by Senators and Representatives is that gun owners don't have a problem with their rights being reduced.  With the thousands of gun owners in the state, only a few submitted testimony or contacted their legislators in opposition to these bills.  Less than 100 testimonies opposing each bill was submitted, that's less than 1% of all gun owners in Hawaii.  If gun owners continue to be apathetic in a State with some of the most restrictive gun laws, expect to see more of your rights being taken away.

HB 625 - Misdemeanor harrassment disqualifies a person from owning, possessing, or controlling a gun

HB 2629 - Rap Back

HB 2632 - Emergency Hospitalization results in immediate removal of all firearms


MAHALO

HARVEY GERWIG, LEGISLATIVE LIAISON and PRESIDENT, HRA

EMAIL:  HGHAWAII@GMAIL.COM,    PHONE:  (808) 306-7194

The message received by Senators and Representatives is that gun owners don't have a problem with their rights being reduced.  With the thousands of gun owners in the state, only a few submitted testimony or contacted their legislators in opposition to these bills.  Less than 100 testimonies opposing each bill was submitted, that's less than 1% of all gun owners in Hawaii.  If gun owners continue to be apathetic in a State with some of the most restrictive gun laws, expect to see more of your rights being taken away.

HB 625 - Misdemeanor harrassment disqualifies a person from owning, possessing, or controlling a gun

HB 2629 - Rap Back

HB 2632 - Emergency Hospitalization results in immediate removal of all firearms


MAHALO

HARVEY GERWIG, LEGISLATIVE LIAISON and PRESIDENT, HRA

EMAIL:  HGHAWAII@GMAIL.COM,    PHONE:  (808) 306-7194

How many peopel supported them tho ?? when you look of the ratio of people against and for, to the people who knew these laws were even in play, the ratio is still in our faavor, The problem is we have a ruling class who think they know best and do what they want rather then what the people want.

These are all feel good law that have no consequence on gun crime or crime in general. The only people they effect are legal gun owners.

how about a pro 2a rally at the range?

How many peopel supported them tho ?? when you look of the ratio of people against and for, to the people who knew these laws were even in play, the ratio is still in our faavor, The problem is we have a ruling class who think they know best and do what they want rather then what the people want.

True. We were ignored.

Apparently because we lack funding to buy enough politicians off. 

I'm willing to work my butt off, HRA is too, but if nobody gives a shit why should I bother? If this kind of crap legislation isn't enough to get people pissed off and willing to do something I don't know what is.

I'm beginning to think I should just focus my efforts on getting the f*ck out of this state to somewhere the Constitution is still considered something worth protecting and respecting.

Texas is looking good, rattlesnakes, softball sized hail and all.

True. We were ignored.

Apparently because we lack funding to buy enough politicians off. 

I'm willing to work my butt off, HRA is too, but if nobody gives a shit why should I bother? If this kind of crap legislation isn't enough to get people pissed off and willing to do something I don't know what is.

I'm beginning to think I should just focus my efforts on getting the f*ck out of this state to somewhere the Constitution is still considered something worth protecting and respecting.

Texas is looking good, rattlesnakes, softball sized hail and all.

I am starting to think your way too. The roots are deep. Born and raised here, but still think of leaving.
My kid did. Saw no future here as backwards as this place is sometimes. Sold his boat, truck and all that he didn't need and left.
Drives trucks on the mainland now doing well.
That said, what is the next step? Do we have any more chances? where do these measures go from here? and how do we keep fighting?
If any of this gets to the guv, you know he will sign.
Aloha