Hawaii Guns (Read 33069 times)

whynow?

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2016, 06:21:02 PM »
But the dog suggestion was predicated on his implication that we mere citizens were not capable of using a firearm successfully, or safely. Especially with regards to self-defense.

And while our low rate of firearms incidents may be a good argument for not making more laws, the other side will see it just the opposite and advocate for ever more restrictive laws. Because, according to their logic, if all those laws were the reason we have so few firearms incidents, then more would obviously decrease that rate even further.

The way the officer told people to get a dog was like that's all you need to keep you safe.  Sure dogs are good as a deterrent and to possibly attack the bad guy, but they are not the total answer for all people either, the same way that the officer's logic  places a low opinion of firearms owned by citizens.  Guess if you cannot own a dog for various reasons then you are SOL, but never own a gun.   My pistol is in a convenient location when I'm at home and locked in a safe whenever I leave the house.  No law tells me it has to be locked up at all times unless going to a range or repair. 

That is correct that anti 2A minds will according to their logic push for more CA type laws to get the rate even lower while thinking people will see that more guns owned by more citizens mean lower rates. 

RSN172

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2016, 09:33:53 PM »
Cops like dogs.  When police go in your house, they shoot your dogs first.  Easier than dealing with humans who can shoot back.

Being that my dogs live indoors and are like family, anyone who shoots my dogs inside my home will get shot by me.  I don't care if they are LEO or not.  I can control my dogs and if they have to shoot them because they are being attacked means they did not ask to enter. 
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MuffinMan

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2016, 06:38:57 AM »
Matt Levi should have asked Maj Robinson if  he kept a gun at home.......Bet he does :wtf:

punaperson

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2016, 06:54:44 AM »
Matt Levi should have asked Maj Robinson if  he kept a gun at home.......Bet he does :wtf:
Hey, come on, everyone knows that he's "special" given his status as an "only one" whose would-be monopoly-of-violence is a forgone result of his elititist position.

oldfart

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2016, 07:58:57 AM »
Matt Levi should have asked Maj Robinson if  he kept a gun at home.......Bet he does :wtf:
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Huh?
Hpd supposed to have a sidearm all the time.
Even off duty, it's either required or recommended.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
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Kingkeoni

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2016, 04:11:48 PM »
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Huh?
Hpd supposed to have a sidearm all the time.
Even off duty, it's either required or recommended.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

It is NOT required.
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Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

Gordyf

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2016, 04:41:51 PM »
I have always had dogs, never just one, Probably why my place has never gotten hit  by the regular daytime burglaries in my neighborhood, especially during the summer when the little twerps are out in force
That said what does that have to do with Second Amendment rights??.
Of course Major Robinson keeps a gun at home probably several. Not only 'Cause can, but he is probably required.
Us little folks on the other hand...
I wonder how many of our politically elite are allowed to carry without a permit, just a wink and a nod. If they were issued permits it would be public record. Best kept discreet.
You can't tell me that Judges and the like aren't  armed for their own security.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2016, 05:52:33 PM »
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Huh?
Hpd supposed to have a sidearm all the time.
Even off duty, it's either required or recommended.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

You are correct, they are supposed to have their guns all the time, unless they are intoxicated or doing something that precludes carrying a gun, like swimming.

ren

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2016, 06:06:14 PM »
I hope the people see the irony that a person who has lawful access to guns at work, CCW and at home is telling us citizens not to have them because criminals will steal them from us.
What about that instance where a gun was stolen from a police officers car in Kalihi?  :grrr: Now with that same argument why should police be armed? I didn't see the episode but thats one point the mediator should've brought up.
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dustoff003

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2016, 06:50:09 PM »
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MuffinMan

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2016, 09:52:40 PM »
You are correct, they are supposed to have their guns all the time, unless they are intoxicated or doing something that precludes carrying a gun, like swimming.

How about when they're naked at a massage parlor sampling the goods...........oh wait, can they still do that?   It was in the line of duty after all. :wtf:

eyeeatingfish

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2016, 03:03:10 AM »
How about when they're naked at a massage parlor sampling the goods...........oh wait, can they still do that?   It was in the line of duty after all. :wtf:

It becomes more difficult to conceal when naked but maybe a small revolver in the butt crack?

eyeeatingfish

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2016, 03:10:00 AM »
The episode is not posted yet but here is his website that has old episodes posted. Didn't see it on TV so waiting to see it here before I can add my 2 cents.

http://mattleviinvestigates.com/episodes.html

punaperson

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2016, 06:47:48 AM »
You are correct, they are supposed to have their guns all the time, unless they are intoxicated or doing something that precludes carrying a gun, like swimming.
Are you saying that all sworn LEOs have a de facto CCW license? Can you cite any statutory language?

Inspector

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2016, 08:03:02 AM »
I tried recording it last night but ended up they screwed up and played an infomercial.
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Rocky

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2016, 08:45:54 AM »
Notice the good Major did not mention that one of the 3 "fatally shot at home with own gun" was an HPD officer. :wtf:
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/26311630/hpd-mourns-officer-killed-in-accidental-shooting
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Jl808

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2016, 10:11:54 AM »

I tried recording it last night but ended up they screwed up and played an infomercial.

Haha me too. I kind of want to get that back stretcher now.

DVR says next replay is next Saturday 6:30pm.
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Inspector

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2016, 10:23:56 AM »
Haha me too. I kind of want to get that back stretcher now.

DVR says next replay is next Saturday 6:30pm.
Don't really want a back stretcher. Maybe a Thigh Master?  :rofl:
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London808

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2016, 11:10:25 AM »
I wonder how many CCW permits the AG office has issued, Considering they are the Chiefe law enforcement office on the State level.
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

stangzilla

Re: Hawaii Guns
« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2016, 12:35:49 PM »
Matt Levi should have asked Maj Robinson if  he kept a gun at home.......Bet he does :wtf:

He has a chihuahua and a mouse gun.
Perfect match.