The best way for HOT to end these comments is for them to pay you back.

It would have been the easiest way to stop the criticism. HOT should have moved the sun and moon to give you your money TODAY not Monday.

I don't get what's so hard to understand about this simple concept. Pay people back on time, and you have made it easier for them to forgive you versus continually holding out on them. 

I've been through this so I know exactly how you feel.


It's clearer that HOT is using the flawed business model of using new money to fund PAST purchases/expenses. Problem is people who pre-paid will not get their money on time unless new money comes in.

It's Friday. 415 message left. Prompt callback from Darren.

Told Monday I would maybe have money. 

I was also asked to remove this post because it's making things difficult for them.

That is up to the mods of this site.  Once I receive refund, I will post, then never talk of HOT again.

Not much integrity left now days. Keep up the heat. Let's put this guy out business. Take the loss and move on. One thing for sure. Stop with the vitamins. Cancer has to be excised.

@ scorpio ps

we had a pretty good working relationship so i let it slide.  i have records of me asking about it throughout the year.

I have him tons of chances.  there was always an excuse.

by the time it all ended a year had past.

why he waited so long? beats me

I hate to keep beating the same drum, but the guy has a history of taking advantage of those around him, including folks who thought they were his friend or colleague. He is a con man who leaves a trail of broken promises and empty wallets. If his behavior hasn't changed over the last 10 years, I doubt that it will change now.

Refund received in full.  Best of luck to everyone on getting their deal done or undone. 

Refund received in full.  Best of luck to everyone on getting their deal done or undone.

good to hear

Found Hawaii on Target on Amazon.com

https://www.amazon.com/sp?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B006PH5TMG&isAmazonFulfilled=0&isCBA=&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&orderID=&seller=A2N8N72D3AHB6C&tab=&vasStoreID=

Found Hawaii on Target on Amazon.com

https://www.amazon.com/sp?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B006PH5TMG&isAmazonFulfilled=0&isCBA=&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&orderID=&seller=A2N8N72D3AHB6C&tab=&vasStoreID=

Odd assortment of products

So does he have these items in stock or do you "pay in advance" and then he ships them? Hmm...

Odd assortment of products

Going through the same thing with them.  Here's the post I started in General Discussion

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=23351.0

Hawaii On Target (DARIN HAITSUKA), listed ten's of thousands of rounds of mini mags for sale on gunbroker.com, collected payments, did not ship ammo and has not refunded money to most buyers. Many, many excuses, including his associate Dexter Chun was assaulted at warehouse in California, had broken bones and was badly beaten up (anyone know Dexter?), causing another delay. Gunbroker buyers are trashing HOT in feedback, using words like SCAM, RIPOFF and FRAUD (that was my word).  When things got hot, Darin went dark, no longer answering any emails or phone. Last email said to call Alex Kim @ HOT for refunds. Phone is never answered. Messages aren't returned.

Is he really an FFL, as indicated on gunbroker?

Since KHON2 has interviewed Darin before, as a firearms safety expert, I have contacted them to see if they would like to interview him again.

Truly amazing that he thinks he can do this and get away with it. If he would communicate his problems, I'm a pretty understanding guy. But when you have people's money and cut off communications, it looks like a planned ripoff.

He's got some serious problems. Hope he works them out. A KHON2 news story would almost certainly shut him down.

Hawaii On Target (DARIN HAITSUKA), listed ten's of thousands of rounds of mini mags for sale on gunbroker.com, collected payments, did not ship ammo and has not refunded money to most buyers. Many, many excuses, including his associate Dexter Chun was assaulted at warehouse in California, had broken bones and was badly beaten up (anyone know Dexter?), causing another delay. Gunbroker buyers are trashing HOT in feedback, using words like SCAM, RIPOFF and FRAUD (that was my word).  When things got hot, Darin went dark, no longer answering any emails or phone. Last email said to call Alex Kim @ HOT for refunds. Phone is never answered. Messages aren't returned.

Is he really an FFL, as indicated on gunbroker?

Since KHON2 has interviewed Darin before, as a firearms safety expert, I have contacted them to see if they would like to interview him again.

Truly amazing that he thinks he can do this and get away with it. If he would communicate his problems, I'm a pretty understanding guy. But when you have people's money and cut off communications, it looks like a planned ripoff.

He's got some serious problems. Hope he works them out. A KHON2 news story would almost certainly shut him down.

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Welcome to 2a hawaii. Sorry about your unfortunate experience.
Why don't you introduce yourself?
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=4.0
Maybe you'll get lucky.

This is not the first time Darin has had these problems. He has a very long history of cheating and defrauding folks in the gun community and, I suppose, elsewhere. Anyone who goes into business with him should be considered to hold similar ethical and moral standards (i.e. none...).

I would strongly suggest that he be avoided at all costs....

This is not the first time Darin has had these problems. He has a very long history of cheating and defrauding folks in the gun community and, I suppose, elsewhere. Anyone who goes into business with him should be considered to hold similar ethical and moral standards (i.e. none...).

I would strongly suggest that he be avoided at all costs....

Wow! 

I "know" him through SRGC.  At one time, I recall that they were trying to get instructors to volunteer to put on the basic handgun safety class (that fulfills Hawaii's requirements) for SRGC members and family.  I was too busy at the time, so I didn't seriously consider volunteering.  But from what I recall, the whole arrangement, including fees from the students and expectations of the volunteers seemed off somehow.  I am not sure if the classes were ever conducted, but I always remember that.  Was probably 2-3 years ago now. 

I would think that Hawaii is such a small place that word would get around.  I guess the internet allows some level of anonymity and allows people rebrand themselves in creative ways. 

This was posted in my other thread regarding HOT

This was posted in my other thread regarding HOT

Renovation AND relocation? 

If you renovate, why relocate? 

If you relocate, why renovate? 


Hmmmmm......     

Renovation AND relocation? 

If you renovate, why relocate? 

If you relocate, why renovate? 


Hmmmmm......     

Innovate don't procrastinate
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How you know where I’m at when you haven’t been where I’ve been, understand where I’m coming from ?

Innovate don't procrastinate
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How you know where I’m at when you haven’t been where I’ve been, understand where I’m coming from ?

Here is something you can't understand  ....  How I could just kill a man

Renovation AND relocation? 

If you renovate, why relocate? 

If you relocate, why renovate? 


Hmmmmm......     

be sure to read this post in the other thread and the ones after it too
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=23080.msg208863#msg208863

be sure to read this post in the other thread and the ones after it too
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=23080.msg208863#msg208863

On all the forums I ever visited, cross posting and duplicate topics were forbidden.  Mods deleted duplicate posts to keep things organized and spammers in check.

looks like on this forum not only is cross posting and dupe topics a normal practice, the mods are participating and assisting it! 

There are a bunch of suits filed against a "Darin Haitsuka" in Hawaii. Most of them involve small and  regular claims filed in State District Court as well as family court (i.e., divorce). The small claims/regular claims usually amounts to suits to collect a relatively small debt (e.g. under $3K, 5K, $20K or $40K depending on when the suit was filed).

http://hoohiki.courts.hawaii.gov/#/search_listing?lastName=Haitsuka&itemsPerPage=50&currentPageNumber=1&firstName=Darin

Of course, it could be a different Darin Haitsuka than the one talked about here.

~F