AMERICANS PREPARING FOR BATTLE AGAINST GOVT... (Read 2245 times)

punaperson

AMERICANS PREPARING FOR BATTLE AGAINST GOVT...
« on: May 22, 2016, 06:59:17 AM »
Pretty much a hit piece by the Washington Post (what else could be expected from them?) but still an interesting read for both what Soper has to say and how the Post tries to cast it as "wacko". I wonder if there are any similar groups in Hawaii activism? (PM me if you're in the Puna area... :shaka:). I'd be kinda surprised given what appears to be near total apathy in the Second Amendment rights  activism field, but it'd only take a few people...


Kalley Soper, 4, watches sister Courtney, 16, shoot under the supervision of their father, B.J. Soper, founder of the Central Oregon Constitutional Guard.

Excerpt:

Those in the movement call themselves patriots, demanding that the federal government adhere to the Constitution and stop what they see as systematic abuse of land rights, gun rights, freedom of speech and other liberties.

Law enforcement officials call them dangerous, delusional and sometimes violent, and say that their numbers are growing amid a wave of anger at the government that has been gaining strength since 2008, a surge that coincided with the election of the first black U.S. president and a crippling economic recession.

Soper started his group, which consists of about 30 men, women and children from a handful of families, two years ago as a “defensive unit” against “all enemies foreign and domestic.” Mainly, he’s talking about the federal government, which he thinks is capable of unprovoked aggression against its own people.

The group’s members are drywallers and flooring contractors, nurses and painters and high school students, who stockpile supplies, practice survival skills and “basic infantry” tactics, learn how to treat combat injuries, study the Constitution and train with their concealed handguns and combat-style rifles.

“It doesn’t say in our Constitution that you can’t stand up and defend yourself,” Soper said. “We’ve let the government step over the line and rule us, and that was never the intent of this country.”

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The group members are conservatives, do not like former secretary of state Hillary Clinton and generally support Donald Trump. Soper said he would prefer just about anyone over Clinton but would not cast a vote for president this year. He said he thinks casting his vote is “a waste of time” because Oregon’s politics are dominated by Democrats. [Sound like any place we know?]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/national/2016/05/21/armed-with-guns-and-constitutions-the-patriot-movement-sees-america-under-threat/

Of course, they have to include the made-up meaningless term "assault rifles" in the "scary" images...


Assault rifles used in a training session by members of the Central Oregon Constitutional Guard.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2016, 07:06:17 AM by punaperson »

Heavies

Re: AMERICANS PREPARING FOR BATTLE AGAINST GOVT...
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2016, 08:35:46 AM »
That is their angle accomplish any things in this article.

1.  Trump supporters are racist.  "...a surge that coincided with the election of the first black U.S. president..."
2.  Trump supporters are anti government nuts  "...Law enforcement officials call them dangerous, delusional and sometimes violent..."
3.  Trump supporters are conservative, therefore all conservatives are nuts and racist  "The group members are conservatives, do not like former secretary of state Hillary Clinton and generally support Donald Trump."

Everything here is designed to scare people away from Trump. 
He's doing something right....

hvybarrels

Re: AMERICANS PREPARING FOR BATTLE AGAINST GOVT...
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2016, 02:03:59 PM »
WaPo aka Pravda on the Potomac

It's a rallying cry to enlarge the already-bloated security state. They have to convince the liberals that the upcoming atrocities will be justified, and that releasing a domestic military force/breaking the Posse Comitatus Act is somehow preferable to a radical reorganization of the system that shipped all the jobs overseas and abandoned the working class while rewarding corporate/war criminals for their avarice.

On the other hand some people love the idea of "burn it all down" and "violent revolution" but that's always a bloody mess. America seems to be headed for a second Civil War now that the horrors of the first one are out of living memory, replaced by glorious foreign engagements where we always have the option to pull out and return to our fully-functioning society if things don't go our way.

One positive aspect of Hawaii is that the contest is so one-sided that we could possibly remain relatively stable besides the indignities of martial law (confiscations, curfews, food shortages, suspension of liberty, etc) while the mainland explodes in chaos. My biggest concern is what might happen when the pay-checks of the loyalists start bouncing due to an imploding world economy. Fiji-style junta? Chinese takeover? Rapa Nuiesque social collapse?

It certainly won't help that we covered up our best farmland with crappy development schemes, toxic military waste, and poisonous agri-biz experiments.
 
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